Hi Ricardo, I've updated the archeos-system metapackage, so if you want to retry...<br>Thanks for all your support!<br><br><br>Fabrizio<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Fabrizio Furnari <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fab.furnari@email.it">fab.furnari@email.it</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Ricardo, thanks for this email (and for the solutions) and sorry for my late answer.<br>The choice to install Debian in text-mode only is provided by debian-installer, which calls tasksel (only in "Expert mode") and let you select the tasks to install.<br>
Sincerely I didn't try to install ArcheOS without the "Graphical Environment" task, also because most of the applications in ArcheOS uses extensively gnome or another desktop environment.<br>We're trying to make ArcheOS most standard and wider as possible, so at the moment we didn't plan to release a "text only" distribution.<br>
An alternative for these kind of issues could be install the drivers during the installation (always in "Expert Mode") or deselect the "Graphical Environment" task to install it later using tasksel.<br>
Didn't know if works...<br>BTW, which package did you install to provide such graphic drivers?<br>Thanks,<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Ricardo Gaidão <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:caioviator@yahoo.com.br" target="_blank">caioviator@yahoo.com.br</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<span lang="en"><span>Just sharing my recent experience:<br>
</span></span></div><div><span lang="en"><span><br></span></span></div><div><span lang="en"><span>Currently I'm</span> <span>trying to install ArcheOS Theodoric in a old laptop. Just want do discover if ArcheOS is a good choice for old machines and if those can still be used in practical archaeological projects. In theory they should, specially if you aren't planing using the machine to handle complex 3D model calculation.<br>
</span></span></div><div><span lang="en"><span><br></span></span></div><div><span lang="en"><span>Unfortunately I faced a problem. The computer graphic card (ATI Radeon Mobility 9700) is not compatible with Debian last versions (ergo not compatible with OS like Ubuntu or ArcheOS - yes I tried).</span></span></div>
<div><br><span lang="en"><span></span></span></div><div><span lang="en"><span>When I run ArcheOS live dvd the system loads correctly but don't recognize the graphic card and the screen turn all white. When I install the system using graphic or text installers dvd options the same problem </span></span><span lang="en"><span>occurs</span></span><span lang="en"><span>, because ArcheOS installs GNOME graphic interface by default. <br>
</span></span></div><div><br><span lang="en"><span></span></span></div><div><span lang="en"><span>The problem is that GNOME can only work correctly after you install the necessary hardware drivers, but at the same time don't let you do this, because prevents the access to screen display providing only a blank screen (ALT+CTRL+F1 also don't work).</span></span></div>
<div><br><span lang="en"><span></span></span></div>I only figure three options to solve this:<br><br>OPTION 1) The simple option. To edit GRUB command line during system booting to don't run a graphic interface. After the system boot in text mode you can install all the necessary hardware drivers.<br>
<br>I read sources saying that this can be done adding info to GRUB forcing the system to boot in runlevel=3. But I couldn't figure where and how to add this option in ArcheOS
grub.<br><br><a href="http://www.brunolinux.com/05-Configuring_Your_System/Grub_boot_runlevel-3.html" target="_blank">http://www.brunolinux.com/05-Configuring_Your_System/Grub_boot_runlevel-3.html</a><br><br>OPTION 2) The complex option. Install the system without X11 (no graphics). After the system boot in text mode, you can install all the necessary hardware drivers and GNOME from terminal. <br>
<div><br><span lang="en"><span></span></span></div><div><span lang="en"><span>I tried this option but apparently ArcheOS installer don't provide, like Debian installers, the option to install the system without graphics (X11).</span></span></div>
<div><br><span lang="en"><span></span></span></div><div><span lang="en"><span>OPTION 3) Another complex option. Install Debian OS without graphics (X11). After the system boot for the first time install </span></span>all the necessary
hardware drivers and GNOME from terminal. Boot the system already in graphic mode and convert Debian to an ArcheOS system using the "<span>archeos</span>-system” <span>metapackage</span>, created by Fabrizio Furnari.</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="http://vai.uibk.ac.at/dadp/doku.php?id=archeos_v4convert_howto_en" target="_blank">http://vai.uibk.ac.at/dadp/doku.php?id=archeos_v4convert_howto_en</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>I tried this option and apparently it works. But converting Debian to ArcheOS in this particular case is just like using a cannon to kill a fly. <br>
</div><div><br></div><div>FINAL SUGGESTIONS: <br></div><div><br></div><div>1) Providing ArcheOS grub menu option (or instructions) to boot in text mode. This can also be useful in other cases, like incorrect graphic configuration (i.e. choosing incorrect screen resolution) or file corruption that prevent the user to access correct screen display.<br>
</div><div><br></div><div>2) Adding an advanced option to ArcheOS installer (similar to
Debian), to install ArcheOS without graphics.</div><div> <br>
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