<div dir="ltr">'top' [1] o la sua versione migliorata 'htop' [2][3] permette di vedere (e gestire) i processi che sono in esecuzione sul computer. Inoltre nella parta alta, viene mostrata la quanità di memoria RAM disponibile e usata. Analogamente, viene indicato l'utilizzo della partizione di swap.<div><br></div><div>L'utilizzo della memoria è ovviamente variabile e dipende da come usiamo il sistema ed i programmi che eseguiamo, ed è quindi chiaro che l'analisi dell'utiizzo delle risorse del computer potrebbe diventare di non immediata interpretazione. Se però guardiamo la quantità di memoria utilizzata subito dopo il boot, prima di aver eseguito qualsiasi applicativo, possiamo avere un primo numero che caratterizza il nostro sistema operativo e il Desktop Environment selezionato. </div><div><br></div><div>Altri tool per monitorare il sistema si posson o trovare su <a href="http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/12/linux-performance-monitoring-tools/">http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/12/linux-performance-monitoring-tools/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Ciao</div><div><br></div><div>F.<br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_top.htm">http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_top.htm</a></div><div>[2] <a href="http://linux.die.net/man/1/htop">http://linux.die.net/man/1/htop</a><br></div><div>[3] <a href="http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/using-htop-to-monitor-system-processes-on-linux/">http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/using-htop-to-monitor-system-processes-on-linux/</a></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">Il giorno 1 dicembre 2014 13:21, Emiliano Agostini <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:beviugo2@gmail.com" target="_blank">beviugo2@gmail.com</a>></span> ha scritto:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">top ed htop, non href , sorry :-)</p>
<p dir="ltr">Emiliano.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">Il 01/Dic/2014 13:19 "Emiliano Agostini" <<a href="mailto:beviugo2@gmail.com" target="_blank">beviugo2@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:<div><div class="h5"><br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Credo di aver fatto riferimento al metapacchetto(come mi spiegava Simone ), che da quanto mi sembra di aver capito, contiene le informazioni di installazione dell'ambiente. <br>
In realtà  allora, dovrebbe occupare più spazio di quello indicato dal metapacchetto. <br>
Mi piacerebbe  sapere come individuare la dimensione in termini di ram occupata con href,come indicava Fabrizio.<br>
Grazie mille per le informazioni che mi avete dato. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Emiliano.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">Il 29/Nov/2014 21:23 "simone" <<a href="mailto:njkjta@gmail.com" target="_blank">njkjta@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    Ciao Emiliano,<br>
    Secondo me ti stai confondendo con le dimensioni del <font color="#ff0000">metapacchetto</font> lxde, ovvero il pacchetto
    "fittizio" che una volta installato si porta dietro come dipendenze
    tutti i pacchetti "reali" relativi ai programmi dell'ambiente lxde;
    nel caso di Debian una volta installato il pacchetto in questione
    occupa circa 27kB.<br>
    <br>
    Pacchetto: lxde<br>
    Nuovo: sì<br>
    Stato: non installato<br>
    Versione: 4+nmu1<br>
    Priorità: opzionale<br>
    Sezione: <font color="#ff0000">metapackages</font><br>
    ...<br>
    <br>
    Quando tenti di installarlo puoi vedere quanti pacchetti si porta
    dietro e la dimensione totale da scaricare:<br>
    <br>
    # aptitude install lxde<br>
    I seguenti pacchetti NUOVI (NEW) saranno installati:<br>
      arj{a} bluez{a} crda{a} galculator gcr{a} gir1.2-atk-1.0{a}
    gir1.2-freedesktop{ab} gir1.2-gdkpixbuf-2.0{a}
    gir1.2-gnomebluetooth-1.0{a} gir1.2-gtk-3.0{a} gir1.2-pango-1.0{a}
    gksu <br>
      gnome-bluetooth{a} gnome-keyring{a} gpicview gvfs-backends{a}
    gvfs-fuse{a} iw{a} leafpad libcap2-bin{a} libelf1{a} libfm-data{a}
    libfm-gtk-bin{a} libfm-gtk1{a} libfm1{a} <br>
      libgck-1-0{a} libgcr-3-1{a} libgcr-3-common{a} libgksu2-0{a}
    libgnome-bluetooth10{a} libgtop2-7{a} libgtop2-common{a}
    libimlib2{a} libiw30{a} libjim0debian2{a} libjpeg-progs{a} <br>
      libmagickwand5{a} libmenu-cache1{a} libnl-genl-3-200{a}
    libnm-glib-vpn1{a} libnm-glib4{a} libnm-gtk-common{a} libnm-gtk0{a}
    libnm-util2{a} libobrender27{a} libobt0{a} libopenobex1{a} <br>
      libpam-cap{a} libpam-gnome-keyring{a} librpm3{a} librpmbuild3{a}
    librpmio3{a} librpmsign1{a} libwnck-common{a} libwnck22{a}
    libxmmsclient-glib1{a} libxmmsclient6{a} libxres1{a} <br>
      lxappearance lxde lxde-common lxde-core lxde-icon-theme lxinput
    lxmenu-data{a} lxmusic lxpanel lxpolkit lxrandr lxsession{a}
    lxsession-edit lxshortcut lxterminal menu-xdg <br>
      mobile-broadband-provider-info{a} modemmanager{a}
    network-manager{a} network-manager-gnome obconf{a}
    obex-data-server{a} obexd-client{a} openbox openbox-themes{a}
    pcmanfm <br>
      policykit-1-gnome{a} ppp{a} rpm{a} rpm-common{a} rpm2cpio{a}
    usb-modeswitch{a} usb-modeswitch-data{a} wireless-regdb{a}
    wpasupplicant{a} xarchiver xmms2-core{a} xmms2-plugin-alsa{a} <br>
      xmms2-plugin-id3v2{a} xmms2-plugin-mad{a} xmms2-plugin-vorbis{a}
    xscreensaver xscreensaver-data{a} <br>
    0 pacchetti aggiornati, 101 installati, 0 da rimuovere e 1 non
    aggiornati.<br>
    <font color="#ff0000">È necessario prelevare 30,5 MB di archivi</font>.
    <font color="#ff0000">Dopo l'estrazione, verranno occupati 86,0 MB</font>.<br>
    <br>
    Simone<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 29/11/2014 19:50, Fabrizio Carrai
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">30 kb mi sembra un numero piccolo per quanto
        riguarda lo spazio disco, controlla bene.
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        </div>
        <div>Comunque dovendo cercare una metrica per i vari Ambienti
          Desktop, parlerei di occupazione di RAM, anche se il valore
          sarà estremamente variabile, in base alle varie funzioni che
          si attivano.Un primissimo numero di cui terrei conto è la
          memoria occupata all'avvio, lanciando il solo comando top,
          htop o similare, senza altri applicativi in esecuzione.
          Nell'utilizzo aumenterà, ma da un'idea dell'occupazione dei
          servizi ritenuti minimi.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">Il giorno 29 novembre 2014 17:18,
          Emiliano Agostini <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:beviugo2@gmail.com" target="_blank">beviugo2@gmail.com</a>></span> ha
          scritto:<br>
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            <p dir="ltr">Parlando in termini di spazio su disco,
              l'ambiente  LXDE occupa solo 30 kb , mentre per l'ambiente
              XFCE4 31 kb.<br>
              Mi chiedevo se fosse realmente così, perché il download 
              per esempio di XFCE4 è di 30 Mb.<br>
              Mi è sfuggito qualcosa? </p>
            <p dir="ltr">Emiliano.</p>
            <div class="gmail_quote">Il 29/Nov/2014 10:39 "Fabrizio
              Carrai" <<a href="mailto:fabrizio.carrai@gmail.com" target="_blank">fabrizio.carrai@gmail.com</a>>
              ha scritto:
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                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                    <div dir="ltr">Da quello che ho visto non c'è
                      nemmeno bisogno della virtualizzazione. Si possono
                      installre tutti i "Desktop Environment" e
                      semplicemente selezionarli al login.
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Conoscerne bene uno tanto da poterne parlare
                        è già un certo impegno, presentarne più di uno è
                        sicuramente difficile! Dovremo fare una bella
                        azione corale...</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Ovviamente interessato!</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Fabrizio</div>
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                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">Il giorno 24 novembre
                        2014 12:48, simone <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:njkjta@gmail.com" target="_blank">njkjta@gmail.com</a>></span>
                        ha scritto:<br>
                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                          <p dir="ltr">...Oppure organizziamo con il
                            Gulli un talk about di presentazione sui
                            vari ambienti desktop, magari con l'ausilio
                            della virtualizzazione, così da fare
                            confronti in parallelo tra i DE più diffusi
                            e dare un'idea concreta ai novizi della
                            varietà e elasticità di linux.</p>
                          <p dir="ltr">Che ne pensate?</p>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">Il 24/nov/2014 12:32
                            "Elphio" <<a href="mailto:elphio@gmail.com" target="_blank">elphio@gmail.com</a>>
                            ha scritto:
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                                  <div dir="ltr">Il problema è che i
                                    vari DE si tirano dietro anche i
                                    loro tool (e per KDE in particolare
                                    sono un miliardo).<br>
                                    Quindi ci ritroveremo con 4 file
                                    manager, 4 unarchiver, 4 programmi
                                    di scrittura ecc... ecc...</div>
                                  <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                    <div class="gmail_quote">Il giorno
                                      14 novembre 2014 22:16, Fabrizio
                                      Carrai <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fabrizio.carrai@gmail.com" target="_blank">fabrizio.carrai@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                      ha scritto:<br>
                                      <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                        <div dir="ltr">
                                          <div>Quando si parla di Linux,
                                            si parla sempre di libertà
                                            di scelta: scelta della
                                            distribuzione, scelta
                                            dell'ambiente del desktop
                                            (Desktop Environment: XFCE,
                                            KDE, etc...). Per scegliere
                                            quale è quello che fa per
                                            noi (e per il nostro
                                            computer...) non c'è altro
                                            modo che provarli tutti. Ma
                                            come si fa a provare diversi
                                            ambienti ?</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>In Linux Mint la cosa è
                                            molto semplice:</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <ol>
                                              <li>sudo apt-get
                                                install xfce4</li>
                                              <li>sudo apt-get
                                                install cinnamon</li>
                                              <li>
                                                <div>sudo apt-get
                                                  install mint-meta-mate
                                                  (in altre
                                                  distribuzioni potrebbe
                                                  essere diverso)</div>
                                              </li>
                                              <li>sudo apt-get
                                                install kde-full</li>
                                            </ol>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>preceduti da un "sudo
                                            apt-get update". Al boot
                                            appare la finestra di login
                                            e nell'angolo in alto a
                                            destra è possibile
                                            selezionare.l'ambiente che
                                            desideriamo utilizzare.</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>Ora non rimane che dare
                                            il proprio giudizio!</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>A presto!</div>
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                                                  <div style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><i>Fabrizio</i><br>
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                                                  [1] <a href="https://ioconnor.wordpress.com/2013/08/25/how-to-install-kde-mate-cinnamon-and-xfce-all-on-mint/" target="_blank">https://ioconnor.wordpress.com/2013/08/25/how-to-install-kde-mate-cinnamon-and-xfce-all-on-mint/</a></div>
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