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    ...lol.<br>
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    Hai mai provato a fare un talk del genere a persone che non sanno
    manco cos'è un OS e quando gli dici che Windows è un OS ti guardano
    strano?<br>
    <br>
    Poi sicuramente ci sarà anche lo spettatore più skillato, ma
    l'esperienza ci porta a vedere che chi si avvicina tramite eventi
    come questo, almeno a Latina, è di questo livello di
    informatizzazione...<br>
    <br>
    Circa due anni fa abbiamo organizzato un piccolo corso nel quale
    Andrea e Claudio, partendo dall'ABC "cos'è un computer, cos'è
    l'hardware e cos'è il software", sono arrivati a fine corso a far
    installare ed usare linux agli interessati...e seppure sono state
    lezioni molto "diluite" (in tutto mi pare siano stati una decina di
    incontri di almeno 2h l'uno) sono state incontrate difficoltà.<br>
    <br>
    Certo, se parliamo tra noi "smanettoni" un'ora potrebbe bastare ed
    avanzare, ma devi pensare che il livello di chi viene è generalmente
    molto, molto basso...Come dicevo ieri durante la riunione (ok, non
    ne potranno più di sentire esempi costruiti su mia madre xD ), io ho
    dovuto spiegare al telefono a mia madre, che comunque il computer lo
    usa per lavoro da anni, come si fa a selezionare con il mouse più
    icone contemporaneamente...<br>
    <br>
    Spero che chi venga al LD sia un gradino sopra questi problemi
    banalissimi, ma non ci contare troppo.<br>
    <br>
    3 anni fa il GioveLUG ha organizzato un corso di non ricordo quante
    lezioni su come si installa un web server e come si installa un CMS
    (mi pare fosse Joomla) ai piccoli commercianti di Terracina...e
    anche quello fu un corso di diverse lezioni di almeno un paio d'ore
    l'una!<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 13/09/2012 15:17, Sandro Mosca ha
      scritto:<br>
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    <blockquote
cite="mid:CALicN8co=YDA2Btb38kz9BMzJPQTZu7VXaia0mU9nARhraO6WA@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">In un'ora di talk puoi partire da zero e far capire a
      tutta la platea, sia essa più o meno informata, come fare un paio
      di "apt-get install" e tirare su un webserver. I tempi di
      slackware sono finiti da un pezzo.
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        <div class="gmail_quote">Il giorno 13 settembre 2012 15:06,
          Davide Angelini <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:demon3rock@gmail.com" target="_blank">demon3rock@gmail.com</a>></span>
          ha scritto:<br>
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            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Si presuppone
              comunque che stai parlando con una persona che sappia
              installare linux, che sappia installare tutta la suite per
              un webserver, che sappia installare un cms o che sappia
              scriversi le pagine a mano...<br>
              <br>
              E non penso che sia esattamente la nostra platea, che sarà
              principalmente il tizio che ha tutte macchine windows per
              navigare e leggere la posta e che non sa manco che roba è
              linux...<br>
              <br>
              Poi ovviamente tutti i suggerimenti per il talk sono bene
              accetti e sarà messo "ai voti"...questa è solo la mia
              opinione :)<br>
              <br>
              <div>Il 13/09/2012 15:04, Sandro Mosca ha scritto:<br>
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                  <blockquote type="cite">Ah boh, siamo lì, s/blog
                    personale/sito dell'azienda/g<br>
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                    <div class="gmail_quote">Il giorno 13 settembre 2012
                      15:02, Davide Angelini <span dir="ltr"><<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:demon3rock@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank">demon3rock@gmail.com</a>></span>
                      ha scritto:<br>
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                        0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
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                        <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Perchè
                          l'argomento di questo LD, a livello nazionale,
                          è "Linux nella piccola e media
                          impresa"...creare un server per il tuo blog
                          personale non rientra nella linea guida...<br>
                          <br>
                          Non che sia vietato farlo, ma c'è un argomento
                          che *andrebbe* seguito...<br>
                          <br>
                          <div>Il 13/09/2012 14:55, Sandro Mosca ha
                            scritto:<br>
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                              <blockquote type="cite">Perchè non parlare
                                di argomenti più specifici? (eg. Come
                                setuppare un server per creare il tuo
                                blog personale, partendo completamente
                                senza conoscenze)<br>
                                <br>
                                <div class="gmail_quote">Il giorno 12
                                  settembre 2012 22:44, Davide Angelini
                                  <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:demon3rock@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank">demon3rock@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                  ha scritto:<br>
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                                    style="margin:0 0 0
                                    .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                    solid;padding-left:1ex">Ciao Rob,<br>
                                    Enrico ci aveva avvertito e ci
                                    saremmo poi fatti sentire in
                                    separata sede, ma a questo punto ne
                                    approfitto per porgerti le
                                    condoglianze da parte di tutti i
                                    presenti...<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Riguardo il resto, stiamo discutendo
                                    un pochino su cosa trattare durante
                                    il LD e grandi linee, divagando come
                                    al nostro solito, basandoci
                                    sull'argomento nazionale della
                                    "media e piccola impresa"... il
                                    problema è che dopo la (1) classica
                                    introduzione cos'è un os, cos'è
                                    linux etc e (2) presentare molto
                                    onestamente situazioni in cui il
                                    passaggio è conveniente (dal punto
                                    di vista economico, dal punto di
                                    vista pratico, dal punto di vista
                                    della formazione, etc... a 360
                                    gradi) non ci viene in mente di
                                    cos'altro parlare... purtroppo siamo
                                    anche pochi, eravamo in 5 e ora
                                    siamo in 4...te da remoto hai idee?<br>
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                                      Roberto Polli <<a
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                                        href="mailto:robipolli@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank">robipolli@gmail.com</a>>
                                      ha scritto:<br>
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                                      <div>>Cari tutti,<br>
                                        ><br>
                                        >scusate ma oggi pomeriggio è
                                        mancata nonna e non sono
                                        riuscito a venire...<br>
                                        ><br>
                                        >Avete deciso qualcosa?<br>
                                        ><br>
                                        >Pace,<br>
                                        >R.<br>
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