<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443693434421_3763"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443693434421_5711" face="Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif" color="#4c76a2" size="2"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443693434421_4469"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443693434421_4499">P<font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443693434421_5634">enso che il "nostro" Linux day sia la soluzione migliore. Sposo in toto le considerazioni di Gabriele Tenucci</font></font><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443693434421_5628">! </font></span></font></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443693434421_4704"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443693434421_5627" face="Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif" color="#4c76a2"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443693434421_4469"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443693434421_5439">Mi piace l'idea di ritrovarci nelle nostra sede e presentare le nostre attuali attività e poi metterci al lavoro.</font></span></font></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443693434421_4826"><font face="Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif" color="#4c76a2"><br><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443693434421_4469"></span></font></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443693434421_5428"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443693434421_5427" face="Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif" color="#4c76a2">I tempi sono troppo stretti per una sede differente da quella di Santa Margherita.</font></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443693434421_5430"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443693434421_5429" face="Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif" color="#4c76a2">Tralascio in questa sede ogni considerazione su cosa sia diventato il Linux Day e sul titolo di quest'anno "Stile libero".</font></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443693434421_5431"><font face="Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif" color="#4c76a2"><br></font></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443693434421_5433"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443693434421_5432" face="Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif" color="#4c76a2">Concordo con quanto espresso da Alek: alla fine riemerge la volontà di star vicini al LuccaLug e di farne proseguire la vita.</font></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443693434421_5434"><font face="Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif" color="#4c76a2"><br></font></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443693434421_5436" dir="ltr"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443693434421_5435" face="times new roman, new york, times, serif"><font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1443693434421_5613" face="Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif" color="#4c76a2">A Lunedì prossimo e, mi raccomando, a quello successivo per la "formale" Assemblea dei Soci.</font><br></font>  </div><br><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: bookman old style, new york, times, serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> Il Mercoledì 30 Settembre 2015 9:44, Stefano Giovacchini <info@disegnodesign.it> ha scritto:<br> </font> </div>  <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv8151799126"><div>
    @Alek e @Tenucci<br clear="none">
    avete tutte le ragioni di difendere la vostra scelta con forza,
    perché di fatto siete stati voi a mantenere in vita il LUG negli
    utlimi tempi insieme a Matteo.<br clear="none">
    Sono concorde che io sarei l'ultimo che deve parlare, per l'impegno
    che ho messo nell'ultimo anno nell'associazione.<br clear="none">
    <br clear="none">
    Premesso questo, credo che la mia opinione possa valere come stimolo
    per la votazione, e come riflessione da socio di vecchia data.<br clear="none">
    <br clear="none">
    Non ve la prendete troppo sul personale se le mie idee a volte le
    esprimo in maniera brusca od inesatta, considerate che ho scritto di
    sera e che lunedì notte ho dormito solo 4 ore :-) portate pazienza e
    mi scuso se ho offeso qualcuno, scrivo e posto, è un mio difetto. <br clear="none">
    <br clear="none">
    Avete tutta la mia stima, e se anche non condivido alcune scelte,
    sosterrò l'idea che passa.<br clear="none">
    <br clear="none">
    Unica cosa vi pregherei tutti di non vedere il LD solo come un
    angoscia, ma come un opportunità.<br clear="none">
    <br clear="none">
    Detto questo lascio lo spazio ad altri e lunedì si decide.<br clear="none">
    <br clear="none">
    Aloa<br clear="none">
    <br clear="none">
    <div class="yiv8151799126moz-cite-prefix">Il 30/09/2015 00:23, Alek Mugnozzo ha
      scritto:<br clear="none">
    </div>
    <div class="yiv8151799126yqt6657357041" id="yiv8151799126yqt72650"><blockquote type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">Premessa<br clear="none">
        Ci ho messo 70 minuti a scrivere/cancellare e riscrivere
        infinite volte questa mail perché ogni volta che la rileggevo mi
        sembrava di essere offensivo e non voglio esserlo assolutamente
        con nessuno.<br clear="none">
        Solo che nella lingua scritta purtroppo non esistono toni di
        voce e altri strumenti per dare un tono alla conversazione,
        quindi specifico qui che il tono di questa mail è puramente
        costruttivo e non voglio che qualcuno si senta accusato, perché
        non è così.</div>
      <div dir="ltr">@Matteo: magari la memoria mi inganna ma il numero di
        persone venute l'anno scorso ad Artemisia era più o meno lo
        stesso dell'anno in cui si fece al Lug, del quale io non ho un
        ricordo così disastroso.</div>
      <div dir="ltr">@Stefano: io a te ti voglio un bene che non te lo
        immagini, quindi spero che tu prenda quello che sto per scrivere
        come un commento costruttivo, perché è quello che vuole essere:
        parli di zero stimoli, zero serate a tema, ma te quante ne hai
        fatte? Avevamo anche cambiato il giorno degli incontri per te.
        Noi nel nostro piccolo in quattro gatti ci siamo sempre stati,
        non abbiamo concluso molto ma il progetto del Book Scanner sta
        andando avanti, seppur lentamente.<br clear="none">
        Gli stimoli durante l'anno devono partire dai soci. Non ci si
        può lamentare che non c'è attività se non la si crea.</div>
      <div dir="ltr">Alla fine te e Matteo vi siete presentati ora solo
        per il Linux Day, quindi (anche qui non voglio offendere
        nessuno, ma solo discutere pacificamente) sembrerebbe che il LUG
        per voi sia solo quello...</div>
      <div dir="ltr">Se deve essere così allora facciamo l'associazione
        Lucca Linux Day. Ci troviamo solo a Settembre/Ottobre per
        organizzare il LD e si fa festa il resto dell'anno.</div>
      <div dir="ltr">@Stefano e @Gabriele:<br clear="none">
        Stefano si riferisce alla presentazione del progetto che si fece
        mesi e mesi fa.<br clear="none">
        Ma il 24 ottobre, più che presentare il progetto saremmo lì a
        costruirlo (o perfezionarlo, se il modello base fosse già
        costruito).</div>
      <div style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
        <div> a proposito, al momento
          ci sono 45 luoghi in Italia dove si svolgerà il LD per circa
          35/40 città. Non male visto che molti si registrano l'ultimo
          mese, e che di solo il LD si attesta su 60 città coinvolte
          circa ;-)<br clear="none">
          <br clear="none">
          <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.linuxday.it/">http://www.linuxday.it/</a><br clear="none">
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          <div>Il 29/09/2015 21:20, Stefano Giovacchini ha scritto:<br clear="none">
          </div>
          <blockquote type="cite">Eccomi qua, il principale sostenitore
            del Linux day
            <div><br clear="none">
            </div>
            <div>fare il LD non è solo fare quello che l'associazione si
              propone per statuto, divulgare il free-software, ma anche
              mantenere attivo il LUG nel tessuto nazionale, a maggior
              ragione se fosse  un  momento di crisi per il Linux Day
              (tutto da verificare questa cosa). </div>
            <div><br clear="none">
            </div>
            <div>Il LD non escluso di impegnarci nelle serate durante
              l'anno, è solo una cosa in più, più visibile, più
              comunicata, più partecipata</div>
            <div><br clear="none">
            </div>
            <div>Questo anno passato dimostra che senza stimoli non
              esiste risultato ( 0, dico zero, serate organizzate)</div>
            <div><br clear="none">
            </div>
            <div>Non fare il LinuxDay, e poi partecipare ad un OpenDay
              che promuove una società, nello specicifico Multiverso
              cioè una società con ovvi  scopi di lucro, mi sembra
              insensato </div>
            <div><br clear="none">
            </div>
            <div>io non  sento di dovermi misurare la febbre, il mio
              interesse per il FreeSoftware è genuino, e non ha bisogno
              di prove o dimostrazioni. </div>
            <div><br clear="none">
            </div>
            <div>ad ogni Linux Day aggiungiamo qualche socio , visto
              l'alto numero di tesserati nel 2016, credo che sia utile</div>
            <div><br clear="none">
            </div>
            <div>Il Linux Day per me si può fare in qualsiasi posto
              (magari alcuni posti sono più belli di altri, diciamo
              così..), ma siete sicuri di ripresentare il bookscanner?
              Non lo avevamo già presentato? Io punterei a parlare di
              ciò che sappiamo, di ciò che amiamo, e di come usiamo
              linux quotidianamente.</div>
            <div><br clear="none">
            </div>
            <div>Credo che il LUG debba ricostituirsi sul territorio,
              nel tessuto sociale, riallacciare il dialogo con le
              istituioni (come mai per un FabLab al Polo tecnologico è
              stato interpellato l'ITIS e non noi?)</div>
            <div>Quale miglior evento se non il LinuxDay? Basta
              organizzarlo senza angosce, preparare qualche volantino
              sulle future serate, e fare un bel rinfresco.</div>
            <div><br clear="none">
            </div>
            <div>passo e chiudo</div>
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              Il giorno mar 29 set 2015 alle 20:56, Matteo Lucchesi <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:matteo156@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:matteo156@gmail.com"></a><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8151799126moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:matteo156@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:matteo156@gmail.com"><matteo156@gmail.com></a> ha
              scritto:<br clear="none">
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <div dir="ltr">Io sono favorevole la linux day. 
                  <div>Da quando è nato il Luccalug il linux day è stato
                    il "nostro" evento principale, la scusa per
                    impegnarsi un po di più, per passare una giornata
                    insieme e sopratutto fare gruppo.</div>
                  <div>Io sono convinto che non farlo non farà altro che
                    peggiorare le cose in termini di partecipazione.
                    Come già scritto penso che sarebbe un'ottima
                    occasione per presentare il programma delle pillole
                    da tenere durante l'anno e organizzare 3/4 stand non
                    richiederebbe un enorme sforzo (ieri sera abbiamo
                    visto che 3 banchetti io/Stefano/Alessio saremmo in
                    grado di farli a costo praticamente zero). Oltre
                    ovviamente al buffet! Fondamentale.</div>
                  <div><br clear="none">
                  </div>
                  <div>In ogni caso il punto è rispondere alla domanda,
                    meglio un linuxday light o niente? Si, perchè farlo
                    al forum giovani secondo me equivale a non farlo.</div>
                  <div>Quando lo abbiamo fatto è stata una delle
                    peggiori edizioni per partecipazione, nonostante
                    fossimo in un periodo molto buono.</div>
                  <div><br clear="none">
                  </div>
                  <div>Ripeto a me dispiacerebbe che non fosse fatto e
                    dal punto di vista comunicativo ritengo sarebbe un
                    autogol.</div>
                  <div><br clear="none">
                  </div>
                  <div>Sono invece d'accordo per il lavoro sui social.</div>
                  <div><br clear="none">
                  </div>
                </div>
                <div class="yiv8151799126gmail_extra"><br clear="none">
                  <div class="yiv8151799126gmail_quote">Il giorno 29 settembre 2015
                    17:03, Manuel <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:origin.of@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:origin.of@gmail.com"></a><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8151799126moz-txt-link-abbreviated" ymailto="mailto:origin.of@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:origin.of@gmail.com">origin.of@gmail.com</a>></span>
                    ha scritto:<br clear="none">
                    <blockquote class="yiv8151799126gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
                      <div dir="ltr">Secondo me il giorno del Linux Day
                        dobbiamo andare a pranzare con una pizza.
                        <div>Le pillole di free software/open hardware
                          le possiamo fare i lunedì sera.</div>
                        <div><br clear="none">
                        </div>
                        <div>Poi per il fatto di guadagnare nuovi
                          interessati io farei due cose, la prima è
                          quella di perdere 15 minuti ogni Lunedì nel
                          buttare giù frasi da scrivere sui vari social
                          net. e usare un servizio tipo <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://buffer.com/">buffer.com</a>
                          per programmare i post sia su twitter, fb, g+,
                          ecc. così li scriviamo tutti il lunedì e poi
                          partono nei giorno successivi; come seconda
                          cosa fare tanti adesivi da attaccare sugli
                          stop e sui pali della luce come fanno i veri
                          tamarri.</div>
                        <div>Poi non ricordo se già lo si fece, ma non
                          sarebbe male stampare qualche volantino e
                          spammare all'uscita delle scuole, il sabato.</div>
                      </div>
                      <div>
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                          <div class="yiv8151799126gmail_quote">
                            <div dir="ltr">Il giorno mar 29 set 2015
                              alle ore 16:43 Gabriele Tenucci <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gabriele.tenucci@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:gabriele.tenucci@gmail.com"></a><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8151799126moz-txt-link-abbreviated" ymailto="mailto:gabriele.tenucci@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:gabriele.tenucci@gmail.com">gabriele.tenucci@gmail.com</a>>

                              ha scritto:<br clear="none">
                            </div>
                            <blockquote class="yiv8151799126gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
                              <div dir="ltr">
                                <div>
                                  <div>Guarda che l'idea che era venuta
                                    fuori l'altra volta era, il giorno
                                    del linux day si viene al lug e si
                                    lavora al book scanner. Gli altri
                                    possono venire e fare domande o
                                    guardare un po' in giro.<br clear="none">
                                  </div>
                                  Quello che dico di fare è una cosa
                                  simile, ma un po' più grande, dove
                                  facciamo prima una conferenza di
                                  presentazione dei cambiamenti che
                                  vogliamo fare quest'anno, poi magari
                                  ognuno fa delle mini conferenze dove
                                  presenta i progetti che sta
                                  sviluppando (appunto, book scanner,
                                  soundberry, altro), e poi ci si mette
                                  al lavoro.<br clear="none">
                                </div>
                                Secondo me presentare questo nuovo
                                approccio non sarebbe una brutta idea, e
                                magari dedicare una giornata a quello
                                può farci guadagnare nuovi interessati
                                (sicuramente più che a non fare niente).
                                Sarebbe anche meno impegnativa come
                                cosa, perché non c'è da preparare niente
                                di che, solo presentare il progetto e
                                continuare a lavorarci (che in teoria è
                                anche un divertimento per chi lo fa).<br clear="none">
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                                  <div>
                                    <div>Diciamoci la verità, il linux
                                      day per come dovrebbe essere non
                                      ha più motivo di esistere. Quello
                                      che abbiamo fatto in questi ultimi
                                      anni è tutto fuorché un linux day.
                                      Spiegare il perché di questa
                                      scelta <br clear="none">
                                      a voce piuttosto che con un
                                      comunicatino del cavolo sul sito
                                      manda anche il messaggio che a noi
                                      comunque interessa e non è che lo
                                      saltiamo perché non abbiamo voglia
                                      di farlo, ma solo perché secondo
                                      noi non ha senso farlo e ci
                                      dedichiamo a sviluppare altri
                                      progetti, che magari con linux
                                      c'entrano solo marginalmente.<br clear="none">
                                      <br clear="none">
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Poi fatecome vi pare, io
                                      voterei per fare una giornata di
                                      questo tipo (che comunque non è un
                                      linux day, ma solo una
                                      presentazione del nostro nuovo
                                      approccio e dei progetti in
                                      sviluppo).<br clear="none">
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                              <div class="yiv8151799126gmail_extra"><br clear="none">
                                <div class="yiv8151799126gmail_quote">Il giorno 29
                                  settembre 2015 16:29, Manuel <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:origin.of@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:origin.of@gmail.com"></a><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8151799126moz-txt-link-abbreviated" ymailto="mailto:origin.of@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:origin.of@gmail.com">origin.of@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                  ha scritto:<br clear="none">
                                  <blockquote class="yiv8151799126gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
                                    <div dir="ltr">Tenucci, così è un
                                      Linux Day che non vogliamo passi
                                      per Linux Day nel giorno del Linux
                                      Day.
                                      <div><br clear="none">
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Sinceramente sono d'accordo
                                        con Alessio, non fare il Linux
                                        Day per ricaricare le batterie.
                                        Non impegnarsi per quest'anno ma
                                        impegnarsi di più nell'attività
                                        settimanale e nei vari progetti.</div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div><br clear="none">
                                            <div>
                                              <div class="yiv8151799126gmail_quote">
                                                <div dir="ltr">Il giorno
                                                  mar 29 set 2015 alle
                                                  ore 16:19 Gabriele
                                                  Tenucci <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gabriele.tenucci@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:gabriele.tenucci@gmail.com"></a><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8151799126moz-txt-link-abbreviated" ymailto="mailto:gabriele.tenucci@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:gabriele.tenucci@gmail.com">gabriele.tenucci@gmail.com</a>>

                                                  ha scritto:<br clear="none">
                                                </div>
                                                <blockquote class="yiv8151799126gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
                                                  <div dir="ltr">
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>Se invece
                                                          si facesse una
                                                          via di mezzo
                                                          fra le due
                                                          cose?<br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          Ufficialmente
                                                          non sarebbe un
                                                          linux day,
                                                          così ci si
                                                          evita anche la
                                                          parte
                                                          burocratica,
                                                          però si
                                                          potrebbe ad
                                                          esempio fare
                                                          una mini
                                                          conferenza
                                                          iniziale dove
                                                          presentiamo il
                                                          progetto del
                                                          book scanner,
                                                          e poi metterci
                                                          a lavorare a
                                                          quello, nel
                                                          caso non fosse
                                                          ancora finito.
                                                          Nel frattempo
                                                          potremmo avere
                                                          alcuni
                                                          banchetti un
                                                          po' così, dove
                                                          magari il
                                                          martinelli
                                                          lavora a
                                                          soundberry
                                                          (che al 100%
                                                          non sarà
                                                          finita prima
                                                          del 2027), poi
                                                          potremmo usare
                                                          dei computer
                                                          che abbiamo lì
                                                          come distro di
                                                          prova per chi
                                                          fosse
                                                          interessato,
                                                          poi in un
                                                          banco magari
                                                          uno aggeggia
                                                          con blender e
                                                          fa vedere un
                                                          po' di cose,
                                                          ecc...<br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          Insomma, non
                                                          un linux day,
                                                          ma una
                                                          giornata in
                                                          cui ognuno fa
                                                          quello che
                                                          preferisce
                                                          fare portando
                                                          avanti i
                                                          propri
                                                          progetti, e
                                                          gli altri
                                                          possono dare
                                                          un'occhiata,
                                                          in modo da
                                                          avere un'idea
                                                          di quello che
                                                          si vorrebbe
                                                          fare da
                                                          quest'anno.<br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                        </div>
                                                        PS: <br clear="none">
                                                        ovviamente il
                                                        rinfresco è
                                                        d'obbligo :D<br clear="none">
                                                        <br clear="none">
                                                      </div>
                                                      PPS:</div>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div dir="ltr">
                                                    <div><br clear="none">
                                                      "perché come socio
                                                      ho a cuore le
                                                      decisioni di <b>tutta</b>
                                                      l'associazione e
                                                      non solo le mie
                                                      idee personali."<br clear="none">
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div dir="ltr">Ho come
                                                    l'impressione che si
                                                    avvicini il giorno
                                                    dell'elezione del
                                                    presidente :P<br clear="none">
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div class="yiv8151799126gmail_extra"><br clear="none">
                                                    <div class="yiv8151799126gmail_quote">Il

                                                      giorno 29
                                                      settembre 2015
                                                      13:36, Alek
                                                      Mugnozzo <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:mugnozzo@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:mugnozzo@gmail.com"></a><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8151799126moz-txt-link-abbreviated" ymailto="mailto:mugnozzo@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:mugnozzo@gmail.com">mugnozzo@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                      ha scritto:<br clear="none">
                                                      <blockquote class="yiv8151799126gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
                                                        <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>Salve a
                                                          tutti,<br clear="none">
                                                          Bollono in
                                                          pentola
                                                          questioni che,
                                                          visti i tempi,
                                                          devono essere
                                                          sbrigate con
                                                          la massima
                                                          urgenza.<br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          Premesse:<br clear="none">
                                                          <ul><li>ieri sera
                                                          sono venute
                                                          fuori delle
                                                          idee che avrei
                                                          preferito
                                                          fossero state
                                                          dette prima
                                                          (visto che
                                                          abbiamo la
                                                          mailing list
                                                          apposta)
                                                          contrastanti
                                                          con la
                                                          quasi-decisione
                                                          di non fare il
                                                          Linux Day;</li><li>l'assemblea

                                                          per deciderlo
                                                          sarebbe
                                                          fissata il 12,
                                                          come avevo
                                                          detto nella
                                                          mail in cui ne
                                                          parlavo.<br clear="none">
                                                          </li></ul>
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          Problema:<br clear="none">
                                                          <ul><li>il 12 è
                                                          tra 2 Lunedì e
                                                          i tempi sono
                                                          un po'
                                                          strettini,
                                                          quindi sarebbe
                                                          bene già
                                                          Lunedì
                                                          prossimo (il
                                                          5) essere
                                                          presenti in
                                                          più persone
                                                          possibile per
                                                          parlarne e poi
                                                          formalizzare
                                                          la decisione
                                                          il 12 (così
                                                          intanto se si
                                                          decide di fare
                                                          il Linux Day
                                                          abbiamo più
                                                          tempo per
                                                          organizzarci).</li></ul>
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          Nel frattempo,
                                                          visto che
                                                          abbiamo una
                                                          mailing list,
                                                          mi piacerebbe
                                                          che ciascuno
                                                          scrivesse la
                                                          propria
                                                          opinione,
                                                          perché io
                                                          personalmente
                                                          voterei per
                                                          NON fare il
                                                          Linux Day,
                                                          però mi piace
                                                          che le
                                                          decisioni
                                                          vengano prese
                                                          democraticamente,

                                                          e se ne
                                                          discutiamo già
                                                          ora in Mailing
                                                          List, la gente
                                                          arriva il
                                                          giorno
                                                          dell'assemblea
                                                          con le idee
                                                          più chiare e
                                                          non c'è il
                                                          rischio che
                                                          voti una cosa
                                                          per poi
                                                          cambiare idea
                                                          qualche giorno
                                                          dopo.<br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          Invito quindi
                                                          tutti
                                                          (soprattutto
                                                          quelli che
                                                          ieri sera
                                                          hanno posto la
                                                          questione) a
                                                          scrivere in
                                                          questa
                                                          conversazione
                                                          se e perché
                                                          vogliono o non
                                                          vogliono fare
                                                          il Linux Day,
                                                          perché è
                                                          giusto che
                                                          ciascuno
                                                          conosca e si
                                                          confronti con
                                                          le opinioni di
                                                          tutti gli
                                                          altri.
                                                          Scrivere una
                                                          mail costa 10
                                                          minuti.<br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          In ogni caso,
                                                          se la
                                                          maggioranza
                                                          decide di
                                                          farlo,
                                                          parteciperò e
                                                          mi impegnerò
                                                          al massimo
                                                          (come se fossi
                                                          stato io
                                                          stesso a
                                                          volerlo fare)
                                                          affinché
                                                          riesca bene,
                                                          perché come
                                                          socio ho a
                                                          cuore le
                                                          decisioni di <b>tutta</b>
                                                          l'associazione
                                                          e non solo le
                                                          mie idee
                                                          personali.<br clear="none">
                                                          Allo stesso
                                                          modo spero che
                                                          in caso
                                                          contrario, se
                                                          il LD non
                                                          verrà fatto,
                                                          chi lo voleva
                                                          fare non lo
                                                          usi come scusa
                                                          per
                                                          abbandonare il
                                                          LUG, ma
                                                          partecipi
                                                          attivamente
                                                          durante tutto
                                                          l'anno alle
                                                          serate a tema,
                                                          agli incontri
                                                          e ai vari
                                                          progetti che
                                                          proporremo. <br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          Per concludere
                                                          scrivo la mia
                                                          opinione (e,
                                                          ripeto, invito
                                                          tutti a fare
                                                          lo stesso):<br clear="none">
                                                          <ul><li>per me NON
                                                          fare il Linux
                                                          Day non è un
                                                          tradimento
                                                          alla comunità
                                                          linuxiana
                                                          italiana, ma
                                                          un semplice
                                                          modo per
                                                          concentrare le
                                                          nostre forze
                                                          su dei
                                                          progetti
                                                          concreti che
                                                          poi useremo
                                                          per promuovere
                                                          l'utilizzo di
                                                          tutto ciò che
                                                          è Free e Open
                                                          con serate a
                                                          tema e altri
                                                          eventi;</li><li>credo che
                                                          se ci
                                                          impegnassimo
                                                          durante l'anno
                                                          a fare i
                                                          nostri
                                                          progetti e a
                                                          portare dentro
                                                          gente
                                                          interessata
                                                          avremmo nuove
                                                          iscrizioni e
                                                          nuovi soci;</li><li>credo che
                                                          durante
                                                          l'anno, se
                                                          abbiamo cose
                                                          da mostrare,
                                                          potremmo
                                                          approfittare
                                                          di eventi già
                                                          esistenti
                                                          (come l'Open
                                                          Day di
                                                          Multiverso,
                                                          del quale già
                                                          ho parlato)
                                                          per farci
                                                          vedere;</li><li>credo che
                                                          NON fare il
                                                          Linux Day sia
                                                          anche un modo
                                                          per "misurarci
                                                          la febbre" e
                                                          vedere se
                                                          siamo
                                                          veramente
                                                          legati e
                                                          interessati
                                                          all'associazione;</li><li>non voglio
                                                          abolire il
                                                          Linux Day per
                                                          sempre, ma
                                                          solo
                                                          'saltarlo' per
                                                          questa volta e
                                                          mettere alla
                                                          prova tutti
                                                          noi durante
                                                          tutto l'anno
                                                          come soci;</li><li>se
                                                          decidessimo di
                                                          fare il Linux
                                                          Day io voterei
                                                          per farlo in
                                                          sede, visto
                                                          che l'idea era
                                                          quella di
                                                          lavorare al
                                                          book scanner
                                                          nulla vieta di
                                                          fare anche
                                                          conferenze e
                                                          banchetti;</li><li>se
                                                          decidiamo di
                                                          farlo
                                                          ricordatevi
                                                          che la parte
                                                          di
                                                          organizzazione
                                                          sia
                                                          burocratica
                                                          che tecnica la
                                                          dobbiamo fare
                                                          TUTTI INSIEME
                                                          e non solo in
                                                          2 o 3.<br clear="none">
                                                          </li></ul>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br clear="none">
                                                          P. S.: Sotto
                                                          sotto sono un
                                                          po' contento
                                                          che sia nata
                                                          questa
                                                          discussione,
                                                          perché se
                                                          discutiamo
                                                          vuol dire che
                                                          siamo
                                                          un'associazione
                                                          viva e
                                                          interessata ai
                                                          propri scopi.<br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="all">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>--------------------------------------<br clear="none">
                                                          <img height="200" width="200"><br clear="none">
                                                          Alek Mugnozzo<br clear="none">
                                                          e-mail: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:info@mugnozzo.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:info@mugnozzo.net"></a><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8151799126moz-txt-link-abbreviated" ymailto="mailto:info@mugnozzo.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:info@mugnozzo.net">info@mugnozzo.net</a><br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>pec: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:mugnozzo@pec.mugnozzo.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:mugnozzo@pec.mugnozzo.net"></a><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8151799126moz-txt-link-abbreviated" ymailto="mailto:mugnozzo@pec.mugnozzo.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:mugnozzo@pec.mugnozzo.net">mugnozzo@pec.mugnozzo.net</a><br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>web: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://mugnozzo.net/"></a><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv8151799126moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://mugnozzo.net/">http://mugnozzo.net</a><br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          phone: <a href="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">+39

                                                          320 5325471</a><br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>twitter:
                                                          @mugnozzo<br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          facebook
                                                          (Personal): <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.facebook.com/mugnozzo">Alek

                                                          Mugnozzo</a><br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          facebook
                                                          (Company): <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://www.facebook.com/mugnozzo.net">Mugnozzo</a><br clear="none">
                                                          skype:
                                                          mugnozzo<br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          linkedin:
                                                          Alessio
                                                          Mugnani<br clear="none">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>--------------------------------------<br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          <i>AVVERTENZE
                                                          AI SENSI DEL
                                                          D.Lgs.
                                                          196/2003 E
                                                          DIRITTO DI
                                                          OPPOSIZIONE.
                                                          Le
                                                          informazioni
                                                          contenute in
                                                          questo
                                                          messaggio di
                                                          posta
                                                          elettronica
                                                          e/o nel/i
                                                          file/s
                                                          allegato/i
                                                          sono da
                                                          considerarsi
                                                          strettamente
                                                          riservate. Il
                                                          loro utilizzo
                                                          è consentito
                                                          esclusivamente
                                                          al
                                                          destinatario
                                                          del messaggio,
                                                          per le
                                                          finalità
                                                          indicate nel
                                                          messaggio
                                                          stesso.
                                                          Qualora
                                                          riceviate
                                                          questo
                                                          messaggio
                                                          senza esserne
                                                          il
                                                          destinatario,
                                                          Vi preghiamo
                                                          cortesemente
                                                          di darcene
                                                          notizia via
                                                          e-mail e di
                                                          procedere alla
                                                          distruzione
                                                          del messaggio
                                                          stesso,
                                                          cancellandolo
                                                          dal Vostro
                                                          sistema.
                                                          Conservare il
                                                          messaggio
                                                          stesso,
                                                          divulgarlo
                                                          anche in
                                                          parte,
                                                          distribuirlo
                                                          ad altri
                                                          soggetti,
                                                          copiarlo, od
                                                          utilizzarlo
                                                          per finalità
                                                          diverse,
                                                          costituisce
                                                          comportamento
                                                          contrario ai
                                                          principi
                                                          dettati dal
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