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    <p>Ciao a tutti, <br>
      rispondo ai punti su cui ho argomenti:</p>
    <p>2.1 vi ho scritto con foto su Telegram</p>
    <p>2.2 potrei recuperare un desktop SFF USFF con unità CD-DVD RW,
      con cpu i3 o i5 di 4a/5a gen, ditemi se è meglio dell'arancone che
      ricordo essere un pò datato.</p>
    <p>2.3, suggerisco di usare il ex-mio Dell i5 con scocca riparata,
      per lavoro di ufficio/segreteria va benone e così si evita di
      mettere a vista degli utenti un pc con carrozzeria danneggiata;
      inoltre, se per quel nb serve RAM (mi pare porti DDR12800L) posso
      dare un banco da 8GB. <br>
      Decidete voialtri che siete sul pezzo.</p>
    <p>2.3.1 se possono servire, dispongo di una o due borse per
      notebook</p>
    <p>Enrico</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 25/10/2026 13:04, Marco Bottassi via
      lugman-cd ha scritto:<br>
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      <p data-path-to-node="8"><span>Ciao a tutti,</span></p>
      <p data-path-to-node="9"><span>scrivo via email perché l'argomento
          è piuttosto articolato e sfaccettato per essere affrontato in
          chat.</span></p>
      <h3 data-path-to-node="10">1. Situazione attuale parco macchine</h3>
      <ul data-path-to-node="11">
        <li>
          <p data-path-to-node="11,0,0"><b data-path-to-node="11,0,0"
              data-index-in-node="0">2x</b><span> Dell con i5 5ª gen |
              15" Full HD | </span><b data-path-to-node="11,0,0"
              data-index-in-node="38">16 GB RAM DDR3</b><span> </span><i
              data-path-to-node="11,0,0" data-index-in-node="53">(upgrade
              già effettuato con i banchi portati da Enrico)</i></p>
        </li>
        <li>
          <p data-path-to-node="11,1,0"><b data-path-to-node="11,1,0"
              data-index-in-node="0">2x</b><span> Dell con i5 6ª gen |
              15" Full HD | </span><b data-path-to-node="11,1,0"
              data-index-in-node="38">8 GB RAM DDR4</b></p>
        </li>
        <li>
          <p data-path-to-node="11,2,0"><b data-path-to-node="11,2,0"
              data-index-in-node="0">1x</b><span> Dell con i3 6ª gen |
              14" HD (1366x768) | </span><b data-path-to-node="11,2,0"
              data-index-in-node="44">8 GB RAM</b><span> </span><i
              data-path-to-node="11,2,0" data-index-in-node="53">(probabilmente
              DDR3)</i></p>
        </li>
        <li>
          <p data-path-to-node="11,3,0"><b data-path-to-node="11,3,0"
              data-index-in-node="0">1x</b><span> Dell con i5 3ª gen |
              14" HD (1366x768) | </span><b data-path-to-node="11,3,0"
              data-index-in-node="44">8 GB RAM</b><span> </span><i
              data-path-to-node="11,3,0" data-index-in-node="53">(scocca
              rotta/incollata, usato raramente e solo in sede)</i></p>
        </li>
        <li>
          <p data-path-to-node="11,4,0"><b data-path-to-node="11,4,0"
              data-index-in-node="0">1x</b><span> Dell con i3 1ª gen
              mobile | 15" HD | </span><b data-path-to-node="11,4,0"
              data-index-in-node="40">4 GB RAM</b><span> </span><i
              data-path-to-node="11,4,0" data-index-in-node="49">(attuale
              "burning machine")</i></p>
        </li>
      </ul>
      <p data-path-to-node="12"><b data-path-to-node="12"
          data-index-in-node="0">Materiale recente portato da Enrico:</b></p>
      <ul data-path-to-node="13">
        <li>
          <p data-path-to-node="13,0,0"><b data-path-to-node="13,0,0"
              data-index-in-node="0">3x</b><span> Dell con i5 (gen.</span><span>
              da verificare) | 15" | </span><b
              data-path-to-node="13,0,0" data-index-in-node="44">16 GB
              RAM</b><span> </span><i data-path-to-node="13,0,0"
              data-index-in-node="54">(hardware allineato ai primi 4 ma
              da verificare nel dettaglio)</i></p>
        </li>
        <li>
          <p data-path-to-node="13,1,0"><b data-path-to-node="13,1,0"
              data-index-in-node="0">1x</b><span> Disco esterno USB 2.</span><span>0</span></p>
        </li>
        <li>
          <p data-path-to-node="13,2,0"><span>Banchi RAM DDR3 </span><i
              data-path-to-node="13,2,0" data-index-in-node="16">(due
              dei quali già impiegati per l'upgrade)</i></p>
        </li>
      </ul>
      <p><br>
      </p>
      <h3 data-path-to-node="15">2. Proposta di riorganizzazione</h3>
      <ol start="1" data-path-to-node="16">
        <li>
          <p data-path-to-node="16,0,0"><b data-path-to-node="16,0,0"
              data-index-in-node="0">Standardizzazione portatili
              Fiere/Corsi (7 unita):</b><span> Porterei a </span><b
              data-path-to-node="16,0,0" data-index-in-node="62">7</b><span>
              il numero di Dell da 15" destinati ad eventi,</span><span>
              corsi e fiere,</span><span> usando </span><b
              data-path-to-node="16,0,0" data-index-in-node="131">esclusivamente</b><span>
              questi.</span><span> Sotto il profilo quantitativo sono
              sufficienti per le nostre esigenze ed evitano di
              sovraccaricarci di macchine da mantenere aggiornate.</span></p>
          <ul data-path-to-node="16,0,1">
            <li>
              <p data-path-to-node="16,0,1,0,0"><i
                  data-path-to-node="16,0,1,0,0" data-index-in-node="0">Nota:</i><span>
                  Enrico ha segnalato la fattibilità di recuperare un
                  paio di moduli DDR4 da 8 GB per aggiornare anche i 2
                  laptop di 6ª gen rimasti a 8 GB.</span></p>
            </li>
          </ul>
        </li>
        <li>
          <p data-path-to-node="16,1,0"><b data-path-to-node="16,1,0"
              data-index-in-node="0">Dismissione "burning machine":</b><span>
              Possiamo spostare sul disco esterno USB portato da Enrico
              l'archivio delle ISO.</span><span> In questo modo non
              dovremo più portare in fiera l'i3 di 1ª gen:</span><span>
              qualsiasi portatile potrà creare pennette live al volo (e
              per la masterizzazione fisica resta a disposizione il PC
              arancione).</span></p>
        </li>
        <li>
          <p data-path-to-node="16,2,0"><b data-path-to-node="16,2,0"
              data-index-in-node="0">PC dedicato alla Segreteria LUGMan:</b><span>
              Valuterei di destinare un 14" alla segreteria per gestire
              tessere,</span><span> iscrizioni e donazioni in
              fiera/evento (anche offline,</span><span> sincronizzando
              sul cloud appena c'è rete).</span></p>
          <ul data-path-to-node="16,2,1">
            <li>
              <p data-path-to-node="16,2,1,0,0"><b
                  data-path-to-node="16,2,1,0,0" data-index-in-node="0">Opzione
                  A:</b><span> Quello ultra-sottile (scocca incollata).</span></p>
            </li>
            <li>
              <p data-path-to-node="16,2,1,1,0"><b
                  data-path-to-node="16,2,1,1,0" data-index-in-node="0">Opzione
                  B:</b><span> L'altro 14" con i3 di 6ª gen (più recente
                  e con margine per upgrade RAM).</span></p>
            </li>
            <li>
              <p data-path-to-node="16,2,1,2,0"><span>Per la dotazione
                  si potrebbe passare a uno zaino dedicato con laptop e
                  raccoglitore documenti.</span></p>
            </li>
          </ul>
          <p><br>
          </p>
        </li>
      </ol>
      <h3 data-path-to-node="18">3. Confronto su Installazioni e Distro</h3>
      <p data-path-to-node="19"><span>Sui 3 nuovi portatili dovremo
          installare due distro:</span><span> una standard comune a
          tutti (per i corsi) e una secondaria (per mostrare le varie
          alternative durante le fiere).</span></p>
      <ul data-path-to-node="20">
        <li>
          <p data-path-to-node="20,0,0"><b data-path-to-node="20,0,0"
              data-index-in-node="0">Domanda 1 (Distro principale):</b><span>
              Ha senso proseguire con </span><b
              data-path-to-node="20,0,0" data-index-in-node="55">LMDE 7</b><span>?</span></p>
          <ul data-path-to-node="20,0,1">
            <li>
              <p data-path-to-node="20,0,1,0,0"><span>A dicembre uscirà
                  Linux Mint 23 (basata su Ubuntu 26.</span><span>04)
                  che per i nuovi utenti semplifica la gestione dei
                  driver proprietari.</span></p>
            </li>
            <li>
              <p data-path-to-node="20,0,1,1,0"><span>A parte Lino,</span><span>
                  quasi nessuno di noi usa abitualmente Mint / LMDE e
                  Cinnamon (che è familiare,</span><span> ma rischia di
                  vincolare troppo l'utente a una singola distro).</span><span>
                  Gli altri usano prevalentemente Ubuntu,</span><span>
                  Debian,</span><span> Arch o openSUSE con Gnome o KDE.</span></p>
            </li>
          </ul>
        </li>
        <li>
          <p data-path-to-node="20,1,0"><b data-path-to-node="20,1,0"
              data-index-in-node="0">Domanda 2 (Distro secondarie):</b><span>
              Oggi proponiamo Debian,</span><span> Parrot,</span><span>
              Ubuntu,</span><span> Zorin e MX Linux.</span><span> Avete
              altre idee/proposte?</span></p>
        </li>
      </ul>
      <p><br>
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      <h3 data-path-to-node="22">4. Proposta per i portatili più vecchi</h3>
      <p data-path-to-node="23"><span>Nelle ante di destra dell'armadio
          abbiamo macchine datate con 4 GB di RAM,</span><span> CPU
          vecchie e disco meccanico (es.</span><span> </span><i
          data-path-to-node="23" data-index-in-node="100">NB02, NB03,
          NB04, NB05, NB11, NB13</i><span>),</span><span> dismesse dalle
          fiere per via delle prestazioni limitate.</span></p>
      <p data-path-to-node="24"><b data-path-to-node="24"
          data-index-in-node="0">Proposta:</b><span> Potremmo
          reinstallare una distro (magari anche con un desktop
          environment leggero) e </span><b data-path-to-node="24"
          data-index-in-node="80">cederle a chi si iscrive ai corsi</b><span>.</span></p>
      <ul data-path-to-node="25">
        <li>
          <p data-path-to-node="25,0,0"><b data-path-to-node="25,0,0"
              data-index-in-node="0">Vantaggi:</b><span> Liberiamo
              spazio,</span><span> diamo ai corsisti la possibilità di
              esercitarsi subito a casa ed evitiamo di doverci occupare
              subito della lezione sull'installazione.</span></p>
        </li>
        <li>
          <p data-path-to-node="25,1,0"><b data-path-to-node="25,1,0"
              data-index-in-node="0">Modalità:</b><span> Fino ad
              esaurimento scorte e</span><span> a fronte di un
              contributo simbolico (es.</span><span> 10€ = 5€ iscrizione
              + 5€ PC,</span><span> oppure 5€ integrativi per chi paga
              la quota da socio).</span></p>
        </li>
      </ul>
      <p data-path-to-node="26"><i data-path-to-node="26"
          data-index-in-node="0">Nota:</i><span> Ci sono ulteriori PC
          non ancora censiti nelle ante di sinistra.</span><span>
          Valutiamo se recuperare e cedere anche quelli con la stessa
          formula.</span></p>
      <p data-path-to-node="26"><span><br>
        </span></p>
      <p data-path-to-node="28">Cosa ne pensate?</p>
      <p data-path-to-node="28"><span><br>
        </span></p>
      <p data-path-to-node="28"><span>Marco</span></p>
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