[From nobody Thu Aug 28 10:06:32 2003 Return-Path: <cris-italia-admin@unimondo.org> Received: from smtp8.libero.it (193.70.192.92) by ims4c.libero.it (7.0.019) id 3F3B8EBB00261E2B for lymbus@libero.it; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 12:01:55 +0200 Received: from relay.unimondo.org (213.21.158.88) by smtp8.libero.it (7.0.019) id 3F3BC11401467243; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 12:01:55 +0200 Received: from www.unimondo.org (www.unimondo.org [213.21.158.88]) by relay.unimondo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D169FA2D; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:43:02 +0200 (CEST) Delivered-To: cris-italia@unimondo.org Received: from smtp3.libero.it (smtp3.libero.it [193.70.192.127]) by relay.unimondo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928979F8B7 for <cris-italia@unimondo.org>; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:42:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Claudiacompaq (151.30.26.228) by smtp3.libero.it (7.0.019) id 3F40AA6C00184203 for cris-italia@unimondo.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 12:00:52 +0200 Message-ID: <02aa01c36c82$1846fe80$5b081e97@Claudiacompaq> From: "Claudia Padovani" <claupad@libero.it> To: <cris-italia@unimondo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: [Cris-italia] Fw: [CRIS Info] Fwd: [tbyfield@panix.com: <nettime> opencollaborative models to develop public goods] Sender: cris-italia-admin@unimondo.org Errors-To: cris-italia-admin@unimondo.org X-BeenThere: cris-italia@unimondo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:cris-italia-request@unimondo.org?subject=help> List-Post: <mailto:cris-italia@unimondo.org> List-Subscribe: <http://www.unimondo.org/mailman/listinfo/cris-italia>, <mailto:cris-italia-request@unimondo.org?subject=subscribe> List-Id: Lista discussione sul WSIS e sulla campagna CRIS <cris-italia.unimondo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.unimondo.org/mailman/listinfo/cris-italia>, <mailto:cris-italia-request@unimondo.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.unimondo.org/pipermail/cris-italia/> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 11:43:54 +0200 mi sembra interessante... ciao claudia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Croome" <chris@croome.net> To: <crisinfo@comunica.org> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:55 AM Subject: [CRIS Info] Fwd: [tbyfield@panix.com: <nettime> jamie love: USPTO,Microsoft seek to kill WIPO meeting on opencollaborative models to develop public goods] > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi > > Forwarding this in case people on this list haven't seen > it... > > Chris > > - ----- Forwarded message from t byfield <tbyfield@panix.com> ----- > > From: t byfield <tbyfield@panix.com> > Reply-To: t byfield <tbyfield@panix.com> > Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:36:08 -0400 > To: Nettime-l <nettime-l@bbs.thing.net> > Subject: <nettime> jamie love: USPTO, Microsoft seek to kill WIPO meeting on open collaborative models to develop public goods > > - ----- Forwarded > > From: James Love <james.love@cptech.org> > Subject: USPTO, Microsoft seek to kill WIPO meeting on open collaborative > models to develop public goods > Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:27:50 -0400 > > August 19, 2003. Technology Daily PM Edition > > - -- > Intellectual Property > Global Group's Shift On 'Open Source' Meeting Spurs Stir > by William New > > A request for a meeting on open development issues has plunged the > Geneva-based World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) into a > Washington political battle, causing it to shift its position on the issue. > > At issue is whether WIPO should hold a meeting next year on "open and > collaborative projects" such as "open source" software, which allows > users to view and modify underlying code. > > The meeting was proposed in a July 7 letter sent to WIPO Director > General Kamil Idris by 68 distinguished scientists, academics, > technologists, open-source advocates, consumer advocates, librarians, > industry representatives and economists worldwide. > > Although the letter cited a broad range of open collaborative projects > such as the World Wide Web and the Human Genome Project, the fight has > focused on open-source software and on one signer of the letter -- James > Love, director of the Consumer Project on Technology, who has actively > pushed for the meeting. > > WIPO's initial response to the idea was so favorable that proponents > began planning for a meeting. After receiving the letter, Francis Gurry, > WIPO's assistant director and legal counsel, e-mailed a statement to a > Nature magazine reporter calling such open development models "a very > important and interesting development." > > "The director general of WIPO looks forward with enthusiasm to taking up > the invitation to organize a conference to explore the scope and > application of these models as vehicles for encouraging innovation," he > wrote. > > But a few weeks later, WIPO backed off the idea. Gurry said he and other > WIPO officials received "many calls" from consumer groups, trade > associations, professional associations and representatives from > governments. > > "What happened in the intervening weeks is that a request for an open > discussion on a range of 'projects' became transformed into an > increasingly domestically, as opposed to internationally, oriented, > polarized political and trade debate about one only of those 'projects', > namely open-source software," Gurry told National Journal's Technology > Daily on Tuesday. "In those circumstances, the possibility of conducting > a policy discussion on intellectual property of the sort that might be > appropriate for an international organization devoted to intellectual > property became increasingly remote." > > U.S. government officials have argued that WIPO is an inappropriate > place for such a meeting. > > One developing country representative to WIPO on Monday expressed > disappointment at hearing that the meeting is in doubt, and Love and > representatives from the Computer and Communications Industry > Association (CCIA) were furious to learn of the shift. Love last week > called the decision a "temporary setback," and vowed, "We're going to > make this happen." But for meeting opponents, he said, it would be "as > if you made an atheist pope for the day." > > CCIA President Ed Black said on Tuesday: "Does this indicate that WIPO > is abdicating authority and responsibility for these issues, including > open source for the future? If so, we will all live by that, but then so > must they. They should step up the plate or step aside. ... It is > inexplicable that they would shut the door on what are clearly important > issues." > > > Intellectual Property > U.S. Official Opposes 'Open Source' Talks At WIPO > by William New > > An international intellectual property body is not the place for > discussions about "open source" software, which allows users to view and > modify the underlying code, because it falls outside of the > organization's mission, a senior U.S. official argued on Monday. > Reviewing the original mission of the World Intellectual Property > Organization (WIPO), said Lois Boland, the U.S. Patent and Trademark > Office (PTO) acting director of international relations, it is "clearly > limited to the protection of intellectual property. To have a meeting > whose primary objective is to waive or remove those protections seems to > go against the mission." > > Boland was referring to a July request by a group of scientists, > academics, open-source advocates and others for a meeting at WIPO on > "open and collaborative projects," including open-source software. The > WIPO secretariat initially replied favorably to the idea. > In a telephone interview, Boland gave several reasons why the > Geneva-based WIPO should not hold the meeting, including a tight budget > and late scheduling. She also said WIPO's agenda should be driven by > member nations, and the idea came from outside the organization. > Officials from the 179 WIPO nations will convene in late September to > decide their agenda for the next two years; the agenda has been in the > works for months and does not include open-development issues. "It would > have been somewhat unusual for such a meeting to materialize out of > nothing," Boland said. > > In the past six months, WIPO has had to cancel several meetings on > topics directly relevant to the organization due to budgetary issues, > she said, adding that with those problems, the organization should not > "go out on a limb and express receptivity" to an open-development meeting. > U.S. government officials have had "informal" communications with WIPO, > > Boland said. A WIPO official said that since receiving a wide range of > communications, WIPO has stepped back from the idea of a meeting but has > not fully rejected the possibility of addressing the topic. > > The U.S. government has an interagency process for developing formal > positions at WIPO. A meeting that included officials from PTO and the > Copyright Office was held last Thursday at the State Department. The > Commerce Department and Office of the U.S. Trade Representative are part > of the interagency process, too. > > Boland said the United States "would certainly have some rather > bureaucratic objections" to WIPO considering a policy on open-source > software. "There are technical and legalistic arguments to that." > Open-source software is not protected under copyright law but only > contract law, which is not the domain of WIPO, she said. That point has > been heavily disputed by copyright experts. > > Boland suggested that the U.S. government supports open-source growth as > a development tool and she proposed it for consideration by a U.N. body > focused on development. > > She also reprimanded WIPO officials for publicly giving the impression > that the body might consider open-source issues. "We think people > working within the organization need to be better stewards of > interactions" with nonprofit groups and other non-member organizations, > she said. > > - -- > James Love, Director, Consumer Project on Technology > http://www.cptech.org, mailto:james.love@cptech.org > tel. +1.202.387.8030, mobile +1.202.361.3040 > > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net > > - ----- End forwarded message ----- > > - -- > http://chris.croome.net/ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD4DBQE/RAp7IQYsxIuy3pERAhGcAJjutk+tg8FKeY5CDbs5XZGghXYrAKDgMBqq > FOSa9mvQBXN52q+1d8uJNw== > =vaz5 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Communication Rights in the Information Society (CRIS) > For more information see http://www.crisinfo.org/ act@crisinfo.org > CRIS Info is a public list for information and questions about the campaign for Communication Rights in the Information Society (CRIS). > CRIS also has a Latin American regional list at: http://comunica.org/mailman/listinfo/crisal_comunica.org > ________________________________________ > > Crisinfo mailing list > Send contributions to Crisinfo@comunica.org > CRIS Info archives are at: > http://comunica.org/mailman/listinfo/crisinfo_comunica.org > This list is provided courtesy of Comunica - http://comunica.org _______________________________________________ Cris-italia mailing list Cris-italia@unimondo.org http://www.unimondo.org/mailman/listinfo/cris-italia ]