From md@Linux.IT Fri Mar 1 01:35:53 2002 From: md@Linux.IT (Marco d'Itri) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 02:35:53 +0100 Subject: stati di un processo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020301013553.GB5288@wonderland.linux.it> On Feb 28, Francesco Potorti` wrote: >zombie --> zombi (traduzione usata in pratica) ^^^^^ ? Origine di questa grafia? -- ciao, Marco From pot@softwarelibero.it Fri Mar 1 10:10:23 2002 From: pot@softwarelibero.it (Francesco Potorti`) Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 11:10:23 +0100 Subject: stati di un processo In-Reply-To: <20020301013553.GB5288@wonderland.linux.it> (md@Linux.IT) References: <20020301013553.GB5288@wonderland.linux.it> Message-ID: >zombie --> zombi (traduzione usata in pratica) ^^^^^ ? Origine di questa grafia? L'Italia. Prima che si diffondesse a macchia d'olio la britannofilia mi pare di averlo sempre visto scritto zombi, e d'altra parte è così che si pronuncia in italiano. Sul Devoto-Oli sono riportate entrambe le grafie, non ho qui altri dizionari. From pot@softwarelibero.it Fri Mar 1 10:10:57 2002 From: pot@softwarelibero.it (Francesco Potorti`) Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 11:10:57 +0100 Subject: General purpose In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020228225448.02df9e40@picard.linux.it> (frick@linux.it) References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020228225448.02df9e40@picard.linux.it> Message-ID: >GNUCAP is a general purpose circuit simulator. simulatore di circuiti universale?! Mi sembra un'ottima traduzione. From pot@softwarelibero.it Fri Mar 1 10:17:15 2002 From: pot@softwarelibero.it (Francesco Potorti`) Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 11:17:15 +0100 Subject: downgrade, key bindings, memory leak, pin In-Reply-To: <20020219185244.GA1275@nano> (matteo.de.luigi@libero.it) References: <20020219185244.GA1275@nano> Message-ID: Spentosi l'eco dei commenti, provo a fare proposte per il glossario: downgrade (di versione installata) --> retrocedere key bindings --> associazioni tasti memory leak --> fuga di memoria From pot@softwarelibero.it Fri Mar 1 10:21:44 2002 From: pot@softwarelibero.it (Francesco Potorti`) Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 11:21:44 +0100 Subject: pin In-Reply-To: <20020219185244.GA1275@nano> (matteo.de.luigi@libero.it) References: <20020219185244.GA1275@nano> Message-ID: Per pin (dei pacchetti Debian) secondo me ci sono ancora queste possibilità: to pin, pinned, pin --> fermare, fermato, fermo to pin, pinned, pin --> appuntare, appuntato, puntina to pin, pinned, pin --> inchiodare, inchiodato, chiodo to pin, pinned, pin --> spillare, spillato, spillo fermare Mi pare neutra, non particolarmente bella, ma adeguata, nessun difetto se non l'anonimità. È quella che preferisco. appuntare Non mi piace puntina. Per coerenza dovrebbe essere appunto. Non so se ha senso. inchiodare È corretto, ma è troppo forte. spillare Spillare ha il significato di "unire due cose", non di "agganciare a qualcosa". Sia nell'accezione degli spilli da sarto, sia nell'accezione della spilaltrice da ufficio. Secondo me è una cattiva traduzione, così come targhetta è cattiva traduzione di target: è assonante e c'entra qualcosa, ma non rispecchia il significato originale. From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Sat Mar 2 15:57:13 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 10:57:13 -0500 Subject: texinfo-4.0k (0%, 545 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203021557.g22FvD932039@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/domains/POT/texinfo-4.0k.pot has been integrated in the central PO archives. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/domains/POT/texinfo-4.0k.pot > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/domains/POT/texinfo-4.0k.pot None of its untranslated messages have been translated yet. Please consider taking its translation in charge for the Italian language. If you decide to do so, please get your team leader (if any) to inform the translation coordinator that you were assigned to `texinfo'. Once the translation is completed, send the result to the address given below, using: > Subject: TP-Robot texinfo-4.0k.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-texinfo.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/texinfo-4.0k.tar.gz > ftp://texinfo.org/texinfo/pretests/texinfo-4.0k.tar.gz From mirko@lilik.dmti.unifi.it Sat Mar 2 19:06:17 2002 From: mirko@lilik.dmti.unifi.it (Mirko Maischberger) Date: 02 Mar 2002 20:06:17 +0100 Subject: timeout, sleep, polling In-Reply-To: References: <20020227174022.A12037@lilik.dmti.unifi.it> Message-ID: <1015095978.5770.8.camel@penelope> Il gio, 2002-02-28 alle 12:38, Francesco Potorti` ha scritto: > timeout -> "time out" o "tempo esaurito per l'operazione"? >=20 > Qui ci vuole il contesto. L'hai dato successivamente: > "Fetchmail saw more than %d timeouts"=20 Il contesto in realt=E0 =E8 variabile, il termine compare varie volte=20 e sempre in contesti differenti, cercavo un modo di tradurlo a=20 prescindere dal contesto per mantenere coerenza in tutto il documento.=20 In realt=E0 speravo di avere il benestare per tradurlo con "time out". > Non mi viene una traduzione decente senza metterci la parola inglese. > Potrebbe andare qualcsa del tipo: > Fetchmail: tempo scaduto pi=F9 di %d volte. >=20 > ma si aggiungono i due punti che nell'originale non c'erano, il che > cambia lo stile dei messaggi, temo. C'=E8 anche un altro problema: in > italiano non si dice "1 volte". C'=E8 modo di ovviare? Il problema c'=E8 anche nell'originale (pu=F2 darsi che per 1 solo time out non si disturbi a mandare messaggi di avviso). > sleep [di un processo] -> "sospeso" o "addormentato"? >=20 > Questo =E8 parte di una di quelle discussioni che ogni tanto si > riaccendono e poi muoiono perch=E9 troppo difficili. Se vuoi andare sul > sicuro (consigliato, per il momento) metti "in sleep". Comuqnue > riprendo l'argomento in un messaggio successivo.=20 Ok, grazie. > polling [posta] -> "controllo"? >=20 > Contesto? =C8 importante, perch=E9 non c'=E8 un termine univoco per trad= urlo. Il contesto =E8 la posta elettronica. Il programma effettua il polling degli account periodicamente e poi da il "fetch" o il "retrieving" dei messaggi. Forse pu=F2 aiutare il considerare che il programma ha un file di configurazione tipo: poll pop3.server.it with proto POP3 (uidl | fetchall) user 'utente' password 'passwd' options mimedecode .... In cui compare praticamente ogni termine tecnico che io abbia tradotto. Devo ripensare anche a quando mantenere una corrispondenza tra i messaggi di errore tradotti e il file di configurazione. > E "fetch" e "retrieve", sempre riguardo la posta, li posso tradurre > entrambi con "scaricare"? >=20 > A occhio s=EC, metti degli esempi e vediamo se fetchmail fa delle > differenze fra le due cose. In "couldn't fetch headers, message" per ora l'ho reso con "recuparare", in "%s error while fetching from %s" diventa "scaricando da" e in "Mail will be retrieved via %s", "verr=E0 scaricata da", etc. Il programma tratta di scaricare la posta e ha pi=F9 di 500 messaggi, anche in questo caso i contesti (sempre riguardo la posta) sono i pi=F9 vari. Non esiste uno spazio per le note del traduttore in cui si indica la convenzione utilizzata per tradurre i termini tecnici?=20 =20 > Un'ultima domanda: se il programma ha una opzione "fetchall" e una > "keep" e il messaggio recita: > =20 > "Both fetchall and keep on in daemon mode is a mistake!" > =20 > Nella traduzione non credo di poter tradurre "keep" e "fetchall" senza > perdere la corrispondenza tra messaggio e file di configurazione: li > metto tra virgolette? Li traduco e li metto tra parentesi in > originale? >=20 > La prima, secondo me, ma dipende dallo spazio a disposizione. Ok, anche secondo me. Avr=F2 virgolette un po' ovunque, ma meglio che niente! Grazie, --=20 1024D/5B35D286 Mirko Maischberger From matteo.de.luigi@libero.it Sat Mar 2 23:57:14 2002 From: matteo.de.luigi@libero.it (Matteo De Luigi) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 00:57:14 +0100 Subject: General purpose In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020228225448.02df9e40@picard.linux.it> Message-ID: <20020302235714.GA1566@nano> On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 11:10:57AM +0100, Francesco Potorti` wrote: > >GNUCAP is a general purpose circuit simulator. > > simulatore di circuiti universale?! > > Mi sembra un'ottima traduzione. Boh.. ci avevo pensato ma "general purpose" mi dà l'idea di qualcosa che non è specializzato in niente, mentre universale mi dà l'idea di qualcosa specializzato in tutto. Ricordiamoci che Debian è il "sistema operativo universale" e che il BASIC è il "Beginner's All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code". Non mi vorrete paragonare Debian al BASIC, vero? :) A me rendeva meglio l'idea "per applicazioni generiche", pur non essendo perfetto. Se mi dite che per voi è meglio "universale", userò quello. -- Matteo De Luigi Vuoi aiutarci ad avere le descrizioni dei pacchetti Debian in italiano? http://auric.debian.org/~grisu/ddtp/guides/guide-it.txt http://auric.debian.org/~grisu/ddtp/ddts-faq-it.txt From frick@linux.it Sun Mar 3 09:56:26 2002 From: frick@linux.it (f.riccardo) Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 10:56:26 +0100 Subject: General purpose In-Reply-To: <20020302235714.GA1566@nano> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020228225448.02df9e40@picard.linux.it> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020303105150.02c22150@picard.linux.it> in data 3/3/2002, Matteo De Luigi ha scritto: >On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 11:10:57AM +0100, Francesco Potorti` wrote: >> >GNUCAP is a general purpose circuit simulator. >> =20 >> simulatore di circuiti universale?! >>=20 >> Mi sembra un'ottima traduzione. > >Boh.. ci avevo pensato ma "general purpose" mi d=E0 l'idea di >qualcosa che non =E8 specializzato in niente, mentre universale >mi d=E0 l'idea di qualcosa specializzato in tutto. non ho capito bene cosa tu voglia dire, dal garzanti online riporto: :7 si dice di attrezzo, apparecchio, dispositivo e sim. che si pu=F2= adattare a :circostanze diverse: pinze universali | in partic., di= apparecchio elettrico :che, mediante opportune commutazioni di circuiti, = =E8 atto a essere alimentato :con pi=F9 tensioni differenti=20 -- saluti f.riccardo From matteo.de.luigi@libero.it Sun Mar 3 12:05:49 2002 From: matteo.de.luigi@libero.it (Matteo De Luigi) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 13:05:49 +0100 Subject: General purpose In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020303105150.02c22150@picard.linux.it> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020228225448.02df9e40@picard.linux.it> <5.1.0.14.0.20020303105150.02c22150@picard.linux.it> Message-ID: <20020303120549.GA1035@nano> On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 10:56:26AM +0100, f.riccardo wrote: > > non ho capito bene cosa tu voglia dire, dal garzanti online riporto: > > : si dice di attrezzo, apparecchio, dispositivo e sim. che si può adattare a > : circostanze diverse: pinze universali | in partic., di apparecchio elettrico > :che, mediante opportune commutazioni di circuiti, è atto a essere alimentato > :con più tensioni differenti Ok. Il Garzanti mi ha convinto. -- Matteo De Luigi Vuoi aiutarci ad avere le descrizioni dei pacchetti Debian in italiano? http://auric.debian.org/~grisu/ddtp/guides/guide-it.txt http://auric.debian.org/~grisu/ddtp/ddts-faq-it.txt From matteo.de.luigi@libero.it Sun Mar 3 17:48:26 2002 From: matteo.de.luigi@libero.it (Matteo De Luigi) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 18:48:26 +0100 Subject: timeout, sleep, polling In-Reply-To: <3C7E5220.5060503@tiscalinet.it> References: <20020227174022.A12037@lilik.dmti.unifi.it> <3C7E5220.5060503@tiscalinet.it> Message-ID: <20020303174826.GA1154@nano> On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 04:52:00PM +0100, Emanuele Aina wrote: > Francesco Potorti` suggerì: > > >C'è anche un altro problema: in italiano non si dice "1 volte". > > C'è modo di ovviare? > > No. In compenso questo è un falso problema. Nel caso che non lo fosse, > si presenterebbe ugualmente nell'originale, in quanto "timeouts" è al > plurale: > > > "Fetchmail saw more than %d timeouts" Beh, il modo ci sarebbe (anche se bruttino): "Numero di timeout incontrati maggiore di %d" -- Matteo De Luigi Vuoi aiutarci ad avere le descrizioni dei pacchetti Debian in italiano? http://auric.debian.org/~grisu/ddtp/guides/guide-it.txt http://auric.debian.org/~grisu/ddtp/ddts-faq-it.txt From pot@softwarelibero.it Sun Mar 3 21:50:37 2002 From: pot@softwarelibero.it (Francesco Potorti`) Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 22:50:37 +0100 Subject: General purpose In-Reply-To: <20020302235714.GA1566@nano> (matteo.de.luigi@libero.it) References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020228225448.02df9e40@picard.linux.it> <20020302235714.GA1566@nano> Message-ID: > >GNUCAP is a general purpose circuit simulator. > simulatore di circuiti universale?! Boh.. ci avevo pensato ma "general purpose" mi dà l'idea di qualcosa che non è specializzato in niente, mentre universale mi dà l'idea di qualcosa specializzato in tutto. Non è la stessa cosa? From pot@softwarelibero.it Sun Mar 3 22:04:28 2002 From: pot@softwarelibero.it (Francesco Potorti`) Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 23:04:28 +0100 Subject: timeout, sleep, polling In-Reply-To: <3C7E5220.5060503@tiscalinet.it> (faina.mail@tiscalinet.it) References: <20020227174022.A12037@lilik.dmti.unifi.it> <3C7E5220.5060503@tiscalinet.it> Message-ID: Al coordinatore della ml: non è possibile mettere i due trattini-spazio usati per delimitare le signature prima dell'indirizzo della lista, in modo che, se qualcuno non usasse signature (come in questo caso), la firma automatica della lista venga tolta dal client di posta nel reply. E cosa fa il tuo programma se vede due volte i due trattini-spazio? Non sono sicuro che sia una buona idea metterli due volte. Qualcuno lo è? From pampalon@mail.cern.ch Mon Mar 4 02:54:32 2002 From: pampalon@mail.cern.ch (Sabrina Pampaloni) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 03:54:32 +0100 (CET) Subject: downgrade, key bindings, memory leak, pin In-Reply-To: <20010301194311.B499@igloo> Message-ID: > > downgrade (di versione installata) --> retrocedere >=20 > e per upgrade come facciamo? > promuovere? > avanzare? Upgrade =E8 sempre stato aggiornare. Sabrina From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Mon Mar 4 09:51:54 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 04:51:54 -0500 Subject: fileutils-4.1.6 (92%, 18 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203040951.g249psU03433@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/teams/PO/it/fileutils-4.1.6.it.po has been integrated in the central PO archives, and is now kept with all other accepted Italian translations. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/teams/PO/it/fileutils-4.1.6.it.po > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/teams/PO/it/fileutils-4.1.6.it.po In this file, 360 messages have been translated already, accounting for 92% of the original text size (in raw bytes). Still, 18 messages need to be attended to. Marco d'Itri is currently assigned for the translation. Please translate the remaining messages for the benefit of users of the Italian language. Once the translation completed, send the result to the address given below, using: > Subject: TP-Robot fileutils-4.1.6.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. 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The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-fileutils.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/fetish/fileutils-4.1.6.tar.bz2 > http://fetish.sf.net/fileutils-4.1.6.tar.bz2 From matteo.de.luigi@libero.it Mon Mar 4 16:02:02 2002 From: matteo.de.luigi@libero.it (Matteo De Luigi) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 17:02:02 +0100 Subject: General purpose In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020228225448.02df9e40@picard.linux.it> <20020302235714.GA1566@nano> Message-ID: <20020304160202.GA2409@nano> On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 10:50:37PM +0100, Francesco Potorti` wrote: > > >GNUCAP is a general purpose circuit simulator. > > simulatore di circuiti universale?! > > Boh.. ci avevo pensato ma "general purpose" mi dà l'idea di > qualcosa che non è specializzato in niente, mentre universale > mi dà l'idea di qualcosa specializzato in tutto. > > Non è la stessa cosa? Non proprio. Per fare un esempio assurdo, pensa a un medico specializzato in tutte le discipline esistenti ed uno non ancora specializzato in nessuna. "General purpose" mi fa pensare a qualcosa che fa un po' di tutto senza pretese di farlo eccessivamente bene (vedi il BASIC). Universale, invece, mi dava l'idea di qualcosa che fa tutto e che lo fa bene. La definizione del Garzanti mi ha convinto che si puo` usare "universale" anche nel primo caso. -- Matteo De Luigi Vuoi aiutarci ad avere le descrizioni dei pacchetti Debian in italiano? http://auric.debian.org/~grisu/ddtp/guides/guide-it.txt http://auric.debian.org/~grisu/ddtp/ddts-faq-it.txt From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Tue Mar 5 08:56:32 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 03:56:32 -0500 Subject: parted-1.6.0-pre3 (0%, 298 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203050856.g258uWl09497@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. 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The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-texinfo.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/texinfo/texinfo-4.1.tar.gz From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Tue Mar 5 09:10:07 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 04:10:07 -0500 Subject: bison-1.33b (0%, 141 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203050910.g259A7e11330@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/domains/POT/bison-1.33b.pot has been integrated in the central PO archives. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/domains/POT/bison-1.33b.pot > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/domains/POT/bison-1.33b.pot None of its untranslated messages have been translated yet. Paolo Bonzini is currently assigned for the translation. When you have completed the translation, send the result to the address given below, using: > Subject: TP-Robot bison-1.33b.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-bison.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/bison/bison-1.33b.tar.bz2 From celli@iac.rm.cnr.it Tue Mar 5 09:39:17 2002 From: celli@iac.rm.cnr.it (Andrea Celli) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 10:39:17 +0100 Subject: General purpose References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020228225448.02df9e40@picard.linux.it> <20020302235714.GA1566@nano> Message-ID: <3C849245.44E8875C@iac.rm.cnr.it> Matteo De Luigi wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 11:10:57AM +0100, Francesco Potorti` wrote: > > >GNUCAP is a general purpose circuit simulator. ed e` stato penalizzato dalla mia idiosincrasia per il reply-to :-( Gli chiedo pubblicamente scusa e rispedisco in lista. > > simulatore di circuiti universale?! > > > > Mi sembra un'ottima traduzione. > > Boh.. ci avevo pensato ma "general purpose" mi dà l'idea di > qualcosa che non è specializzato in niente, mentre universale > mi dà l'idea di qualcosa specializzato in tutto. > Allora direi "di ampio utilizzo" o "di uso generale". ciao, andrea From ml@micampe.it Tue Mar 5 09:49:08 2002 From: ml@micampe.it (Michele Campeotto) Date: 05 Mar 2002 10:49:08 +0100 Subject: General purpose In-Reply-To: <3C849245.44E8875C@iac.rm.cnr.it> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020228225448.02df9e40@picard.linux.it> <20020302235714.GA1566@nano> <3C849245.44E8875C@iac.rm.cnr.it> Message-ID: <1015321748.1064.3.camel@wb-gu214> Il mar, 2002-03-05 alle 10:39, Andrea Celli ha scritto: > > > >GNUCAP is a general purpose circuit simulator. > > > simulatore di circuiti universale?! > > Boh.. ci avevo pensato ma "general purpose" mi d=E0 l'idea di > > qualcosa che non =E8 specializzato in niente, mentre universale > > mi d=E0 l'idea di qualcosa specializzato in tutto. > Allora direi "di ampio utilizzo" o "di uso generale". Cosa ne dite di "generico"? --=20 -- Michele - www.micampe.it We aim to please. You aim too, please. -- Read on a public WC door From pot@softwarelibero.it Tue Mar 5 12:19:39 2002 From: pot@softwarelibero.it (Francesco Potorti`) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 13:19:39 +0100 Subject: General purpose In-Reply-To: <3C849245.44E8875C@iac.rm.cnr.it> (celli@iac.rm.cnr.it) References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020228225448.02df9e40@picard.linux.it> <20020302235714.GA1566@nano> <3C849245.44E8875C@iac.rm.cnr.it> Message-ID: > > >GNUCAP is a general purpose circuit simulator. Allora direi "di ampio utilizzo" o "di uso generale". Di ampio utilizzo no, è vago. General purpose ha un significato preciso, quasi tecnico in questo contesto. Di uso generale e` una traduzione formalmente corretta, ma preferisco di gran lunga "universale", che secondo me è più preciso. From pot@softwarelibero.it Tue Mar 5 12:22:59 2002 From: pot@softwarelibero.it (Francesco Potorti`) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 13:22:59 +0100 Subject: General purpose In-Reply-To: <1015321748.1064.3.camel@wb-gu214> (ml@micampe.it) References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020228225448.02df9e40@picard.linux.it> <20020302235714.GA1566@nano> <3C849245.44E8875C@iac.rm.cnr.it> <1015321748.1064.3.camel@wb-gu214> Message-ID: Cosa ne dite di "generico"? Può andare, ma è ancora troppo generico :-) È una battuta, ma è vero. From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Tue Mar 5 13:29:02 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 08:29:02 -0500 Subject: sketch-0.6.13 (0%, 444 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203051329.g25DT2Y16990@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/domains/POT/sketch-0.6.13.pot has been integrated in the central PO archives. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/domains/POT/sketch-0.6.13.pot > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/domains/POT/sketch-0.6.13.pot None of its untranslated messages have been translated yet. Please consider taking its translation in charge for the Italian language. If you decide to do so, please get your team leader (if any) to inform the translation coordinator that you were assigned to `sketch'. Once the translation is completed, send the result to the address given below, using: > Subject: TP-Robot sketch-0.6.13.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-sketch.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/sketch/sketch-0.6.13.tar.gz From celli@iac.rm.cnr.it Tue Mar 5 15:06:19 2002 From: celli@iac.rm.cnr.it (Andrea Celli) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 16:06:19 +0100 Subject: General purpose References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020228225448.02df9e40@picard.linux.it> <20020302235714.GA1566@nano> <3C849245.44E8875C@iac.rm.cnr.it> Message-ID: <3C84DEEB.83127AAE@iac.rm.cnr.it> Francesco Potorti` wrote: > > > > >GNUCAP is a general purpose circuit simulator. > > Allora direi "di ampio utilizzo" o "di uso generale". > > Di ampio utilizzo no, è vago. General purpose ha un significato > preciso, quasi tecnico in questo contesto. Di uso generale e` una > traduzione formalmente corretta, ma preferisco di gran lunga > "universale", che secondo me è più preciso. > Dipende un po' dal contesto. "universale" ha una connotazione un po' utopistica, qualcosa che e` perfetto per tutto: la pace universale, il benessere universale, ... Anche se ammetto che ci sono chiavi e pinze universali. Qui, va abbastanza bene, ma in altre situazioni potrebbe piacermi molto meno. Soprattutto quando ci si riferisce a qualcosa che si adatta abbastanza bene a tutto, senza essere perfetto per niente. ciao, andrea From matteo.de.luigi@libero.it Tue Mar 5 18:08:32 2002 From: matteo.de.luigi@libero.it (Matteo De Luigi) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 19:08:32 +0100 Subject: General purpose In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020228225448.02df9e40@picard.linux.it> <20020302235714.GA1566@nano> <3C849245.44E8875C@iac.rm.cnr.it> <1015321748.1064.3.camel@wb-gu214> Message-ID: <20020305180832.GA3358@nano> On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 01:22:59PM +0100, Francesco Potorti` wrote: > Cosa ne dite di "generico"? > > Può andare, ma è ancora troppo generico :-) > E suona anche male. "Simulatore circuitale generico" mi fa pensare a quelle pubblicità di detersivi dove da una parte c'è il prodotto di marca e dall'altra un flacone bianco con scritto su "detersivo generico" :) -- Matteo De Luigi Vuoi aiutarci ad avere le descrizioni dei pacchetti Debian in italiano? http://auric.debian.org/~grisu/ddtp/guides/guide-it.txt http://auric.debian.org/~grisu/ddtp/ddts-faq-it.txt From ml@micampe.it Tue Mar 5 18:22:43 2002 From: ml@micampe.it (Michele Campeotto) Date: 05 Mar 2002 19:22:43 +0100 Subject: General purpose In-Reply-To: <20020305180832.GA3358@nano> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020228225448.02df9e40@picard.linux.it> <20020302235714.GA1566@nano> <3C849245.44E8875C@iac.rm.cnr.it> <1015321748.1064.3.camel@wb-gu214> <20020305180832.GA3358@nano> Message-ID: <1015352563.1062.152.camel@wb-gu214> L'ultimo messaggio di MdL mi =E8 arrivato quattro volte, e quello di Francesco tre: a volte con l'URL del TP in fondo e a volte senza... esperimenti in corso o qualche problema? --=20 -- Michele - www.micampe.it Sex is one of the nine reasons for reincarnation; the other eight are unimportant. -- Murphy's Love Laws From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Tue Mar 5 18:53:10 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 13:53:10 -0500 Subject: fileutils-4.1.5 (100%, 0 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203051853.g25IrAI32507@trex.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/teams/PO/it/fileutils-4.1.5.it.po has been integrated in the central PO archives, and is now kept with all other accepted Italian translations. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/teams/PO/it/fileutils-4.1.5.it.po > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/teams/PO/it/fileutils-4.1.5.it.po All its 374 messages have been translated, and this PO file has been submitted to the maintainer of `fileutils', hoping s/he will include it in a future release of programs using this textual domain. Let me thank you for all users of the Italian language. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-fileutils.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/fetish/fileutils-4.1.6.tar.bz2 > http://fetish.sf.net/fileutils-4.1.6.tar.bz2 From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Tue Mar 5 20:05:46 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:05:46 -0500 Subject: a2ps-4.13b (0%, 179 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203052005.g25K5kT32123@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/domains/POT/a2ps-4.13b.pot has been integrated in the central PO archives. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/domains/POT/a2ps-4.13b.pot > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/domains/POT/a2ps-4.13b.pot None of its untranslated messages have been translated yet. Please consider taking its translation in charge for the Italian language. If you decide to do so, please get your team leader (if any) to inform the translation coordinator that you were assigned to `a2ps'. Once the translation is completed, send the result to the address given below, using: > Subject: TP-Robot a2ps-4.13b.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-a2ps.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/a2ps/a2ps-4.13b.tar.gz From faina.mail@tiscalinet.it Tue Mar 5 21:14:46 2002 From: faina.mail@tiscalinet.it (Emanuele Aina) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 22:14:46 +0100 Subject: timeout, sleep, polling References: <20020227174022.A12037@lilik.dmti.unifi.it> <3C7E5220.5060503@tiscalinet.it> Message-ID: <3C853546.7030801@tiscalinet.it> Francesco Potorti` dubitò: > Al coordinatore della ml: non è possibile mettere i due trattini-spazio > usati per delimitare le signature prima dell'indirizzo della lista, in > modo che, se qualcuno non usasse signature (come in questo caso), la > firma automatica della lista venga tolta dal client di posta nel reply. > > E cosa fa il tuo programma se vede due volte i due trattini-spazio? Non > sono sicuro che sia una buona idea metterli due volte. Qualcuno lo è? Bah, mozilla li usa (correttamente) come marcatori di inizio signature e stampa tutto ciò che segue con un bel color grigio chiaro :-) Inoltre, al momento di rispondere, elimina la parte relativa alla signature, evitandomi lo sbattimento di farlo manualmente... :-P Metterli due volte non dovrebbe dare problemi (sicuramente non più di quanti ne dia non metterli nemmeno una volta). Per completezza riporto quanto viene automaticamente accodato nelle ml ufficiali debian (in questo caso debian-devel): > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-request@lists.debian.org with a > subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org Credo che sia fattibile anche qui. Grazie. -- Au revoir. Lele... From pot@softwarelibero.it Wed Mar 6 09:29:13 2002 From: pot@softwarelibero.it (Francesco Potorti`) Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 10:29:13 +0100 Subject: timeout, sleep, polling In-Reply-To: <3C853546.7030801@tiscalinet.it> (faina.mail@tiscalinet.it) References: <20020227174022.A12037@lilik.dmti.unifi.it> <3C7E5220.5060503@tiscalinet.it> <3C853546.7030801@tiscalinet.it> Message-ID: > E cosa fa il tuo programma se vede due volte i due trattini-spazio? Non > sono sicuro che sia una buona idea metterli due volte. Qualcuno lo è? Metterli due volte non dovrebbe dare problemi (sicuramente non più di quanti ne dia non metterli nemmeno una volta). Lo so che non dovrebbe dare problemi :-) La mia domanda era: «dà problemi?». Se io metto il "\n-- " in fondo al mio messaggio e poi la lista mi aggiunge un altro marcatore, i programmi di posta si comportano bene? Qualcuno lo sa o ha voglia di provare? From pot@softwarelibero.it Wed Mar 6 09:34:59 2002 From: pot@softwarelibero.it (Francesco Potorti`) Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 10:34:59 +0100 Subject: General purpose In-Reply-To: <3C84DEEB.83127AAE@iac.rm.cnr.it> (celli@iac.rm.cnr.it) References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020228225448.02df9e40@picard.linux.it> <20020302235714.GA1566@nano> <3C849245.44E8875C@iac.rm.cnr.it> <3C84DEEB.83127AAE@iac.rm.cnr.it> Message-ID: Dipende un po' dal contesto. "universale" ha una connotazione un po' utopistica, qualcosa che e` perfetto per tutto: la pace universale, il benessere universale, ... Non sono cose che ci riguardano in una traduzione tecnica, solitamente limitata a messaggi e manuali. Anche se ammetto che ci sono chiavi e pinze universali. Questo, e a parte eccezioni solo questo, è il contesto che ci riguarda. From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Wed Mar 6 14:43:58 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:43:58 -0500 Subject: nano-1.1.7 (84%, 20 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203061443.g26Ehwv27514@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/teams/PO/it/nano-1.1.7.it.po has been integrated in the central PO archives, and is now kept with all other accepted Italian translations. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/teams/PO/it/nano-1.1.7.it.po > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/teams/PO/it/nano-1.1.7.it.po In this file, 293 messages have been translated already, accounting for 84% of the original text size (in raw bytes). Still, 20 messages need to be attended to. Marco Colombo is currently assigned for the translation. Please translate the remaining messages for the benefit of users of the Italian language. Once the translation completed, send the result to the address given below, using: > Subject: TP-Robot nano-1.1.7.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. In the meantime, this PO file has been submitted to the maintainer of programs using the textual domain `nano'. Thanks! The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-nano.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > http://nano-editor.org/dist/v1.1/nano-1.1.7.tar.gz From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Wed Mar 6 18:22:09 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 13:22:09 -0500 Subject: grep-2.5g (49%, 3 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203061822.g26IM9e07372@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/teams/PO/it/grep-2.5g.it.po has been integrated in the central PO archives, and is now kept with all other accepted Italian translations. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/teams/PO/it/grep-2.5g.it.po > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/teams/PO/it/grep-2.5g.it.po In this file, 48 messages have been translated already, accounting for 49% of the original text size (in raw bytes). Still, 3 messages need to be attended to. Marco d'Itri is currently assigned for the translation. Please translate the remaining messages for the benefit of users of the Italian language. Once the translation completed, send the result to the address given below, using: > Subject: TP-Robot grep-2.5g.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. In the meantime, this PO file has been submitted to the maintainer of programs using the textual domain `grep'. Thanks! The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-grep.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/grep/grep-2.5g.tar.bz2 From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Wed Mar 6 18:23:01 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 13:23:01 -0500 Subject: lilypond-1.4.12 (0%, 304 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203061823.g26IN1H07981@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/domains/POT/lilypond-1.4.12.pot has been integrated in the central PO archives. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/domains/POT/lilypond-1.4.12.pot > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/domains/POT/lilypond-1.4.12.pot None of its untranslated messages have been translated yet. Please consider taking its translation in charge for the Italian language. If you decide to do so, please get your team leader (if any) to inform the translation coordinator that you were assigned to `lilypond'. Once the translation is completed, send the result to the address given below, using: > Subject: TP-Robot lilypond-1.4.12.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-lilypond.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/lilypond/lilypond-1.4.12.tar.gz From amardegan@iol.it Thu Mar 7 21:28:29 2002 From: amardegan@iol.it (Alberto Mardegan) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 22:28:29 +0100 Subject: Debian Policy Manual Message-ID: <20020307222829.A4170@pupilla> Lo traduco? Se sì, va bene "Linee guida Debian"? -- Saluti, Mardy http://castellina.org/interlingua From eppesuigoccas@libero.it Thu Mar 7 22:58:43 2002 From: eppesuigoccas@libero.it (Giuseppe Sacco) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 23:58:43 +0100 Subject: Debian Policy Manual In-Reply-To: <20020307222829.A4170@pupilla> References: <20020307222829.A4170@pupilla> Message-ID: <20020307225843.GC1753@libero.it> Il Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 10:28:29PM +0100, Alberto Mardegan ha scritto: > Lo traduco? > Se sì, va bene "Linee guida Debian"? Sì, a mio parere va tradotto. Linee guida Debian non è male anche se avvicina al DFSG (Debian Free Software Guidelines) dove c'è proprio Guidelines che viene tradotto Linee guida. Ciao, Giuseppe From md@Linux.IT Thu Mar 7 23:02:23 2002 From: md@Linux.IT (Marco d'Itri) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 00:02:23 +0100 Subject: Debian Policy Manual In-Reply-To: <20020307222829.A4170@pupilla> References: <20020307222829.A4170@pupilla> Message-ID: <20020307230223.GA4527@wonderland.linux.it> On Mar 07, Alberto Mardegan wrote: >Lo traduco? Mi sembra tempo perso, è un documento per sviluppatori debian. >Se sì, va bene "Linee guida Debian"? Non mi piace molto. -- ciao, Marco From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Thu Mar 7 23:33:06 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 18:33:06 -0500 Subject: grep-2.5g (100%, 0 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203072333.g27NX6414323@trex.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/teams/PO/it/grep-2.5g.it.po has been integrated in the central PO archives, and is now kept with all other accepted Italian translations. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/teams/PO/it/grep-2.5g.it.po > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/teams/PO/it/grep-2.5g.it.po All its 51 messages have been translated, and this PO file has been submitted to the maintainer of `grep', hoping s/he will include it in a future release of programs using this textual domain. Let me thank you for all users of the Italian language. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-grep.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/grep/grep-2.5g.tar.bz2 From samu@linuxasylum.net Fri Mar 8 00:08:06 2002 From: samu@linuxasylum.net (Samu) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 01:08:06 +0100 Subject: apt sob Message-ID: <20020308000806.GA6202@linuxasylum.net> ciao, cattive notizie per apt (almeno per me) il template che avevo usato e' stato aggiornato ... quindi mi sono ritrovato con altri messaggi da tradurre ... Come se cio' non bastasse alcuni messaggi gia' tradotti sono stati spostati e messi sopra altri messaggi .. insomma un gran casino. Ecco perche' se andate sulla pagina di piefel la versione italiana di apt non e' scaricabile ... Sto riscrivendo il tutto con la versione ultima che avevo di fatto (meno male che tengo i backup ) . Mi trovo con dei problemi per quanto riguarda la traduzione dei seguenti termini: diversion contents file mounting point (mount, unmount ecc ) e anche #: ftparchive/cachedb.cc:253 ftparchive/cachedb.cc:257 msgid "Unable to get a cursor" come sono gia' stati tradotti questi termini ? inoltre avro' altre domande ... e non manchero' di spedirvi il file :-)) (stavolta pero' lo bz2ippo son 70kb) ciao Samuele -- Samuele Giovanni Tonon http://www.linuxasylum.net/~samu/ Acid -- better living through chemistry. Timothy Leary From eppesuigoccas@libero.it Fri Mar 8 06:50:08 2002 From: eppesuigoccas@libero.it (Giuseppe Sacco) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:50:08 +0100 Subject: apt sob In-Reply-To: <20020308000806.GA6202@linuxasylum.net> References: <20020308000806.GA6202@linuxasylum.net> Message-ID: <20020308065008.GA936@libero.it> Il Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 01:08:06AM +0100, Samu ha scritto: > Mi trovo con dei problemi per quanto riguarda la traduzione dei seguenti > termini: > > diversion > contents file > mounting point (mount, unmount ecc ) mount point è invariato secondo il glossario. Per mount e umount io utilizzerei montaggio e smontaggio. > #: ftparchive/cachedb.cc:253 ftparchive/cachedb.cc:257 > msgid "Unable to get a cursor" La traduzione secondo me è letterale: Non è possibile ottenere un cursore. Dopotutto la frase originale è molto tecnica e quindi va tradotta allo stesso livello. Ciao, Giuseppe From skizzoric@yahoo.it Fri Mar 8 09:01:10 2002 From: skizzoric@yahoo.it (f.riccardo) Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 10:01:10 +0100 Subject: apt sob In-Reply-To: <20020308000806.GA6202@linuxasylum.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020308090252.029d0bd0@pop.mail.yahoo.it> in data 8/3/2002, Samu ha scritto: >ciao, >cattive notizie per apt (almeno per me) >il template che avevo usato e' stato aggiornato ... e' una mezza tragedia star dietro a debian ;) >Mi trovo con dei problemi per quanto riguarda la traduzione dei seguenti >termini: > >diversion contesto? "diversione" e' un termine ingegneristico, piu' comune e' "deviazione" >contents file file sommario? >mounting point (mount, unmount ecc ) consulta l'archivio di tp >e anche > >#: ftparchive/cachedb.cc:253 ftparchive/cachedb.cc:257 >msgid "Unable to get a cursor" perche' non letteralmente? -- saluti f.riccardo From pot@softwarelibero.it Fri Mar 8 12:04:34 2002 From: pot@softwarelibero.it (Francesco Potorti`) Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 13:04:34 +0100 Subject: Debian Policy Manual In-Reply-To: <20020307222829.A4170@pupilla> (amardegan@iol.it) References: <20020307222829.A4170@pupilla> Message-ID: Lo traduco? Boh. Finché qualcuno non traduce il documento, tradurre il solo titolo non è una grande idea. From faina.mail@tiscalinet.it Sun Mar 3 16:21:56 2002 From: faina.mail@tiscalinet.it (Emanuele Aina) Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 17:21:56 +0100 Subject: downgrade, key bindings, memory leak, pin References: <20020219185244.GA1275@nano> Message-ID: <3C824DA4.8000002@tiscalinet.it> Francesco Potorti` provò: > Spentosi l'eco dei commenti, provo a fare proposte per il glossario: > > downgrade (di versione installata) --> retrocedere > key bindings --> associazioni tasti > memory leak --> fuga di memoria > http://www.linux.it/tp/ Aggiudicato. -- Au revoir. Lele... From faina.mail@tiscalinet.it Sun Mar 3 16:28:42 2002 From: faina.mail@tiscalinet.it (Emanuele Aina) Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 17:28:42 +0100 Subject: pin References: <20020219185244.GA1275@nano> Message-ID: <3C824F3A.40004@tiscalinet.it> Francesco Potorti` ricapitolò: > Per pin (dei pacchetti Debian) secondo me ci sono ancora queste > possibilità: > > to pin, pinned, pin --> fermare, fermato, fermo > to pin, pinned, pin --> appuntare, appuntato, puntina > to pin, pinned, pin --> inchiodare, inchiodato, chiodo > to pin, pinned, pin --> spillare, spillato, spillo > fermare > Mi pare neutra, non particolarmente bella, ma adeguata, nessun difetto > se non l'anonimità. È quella che preferisco. In debian il "pin" permette anche di "agganciare" un pacchetto a una qualsiasi distribuzione. Per esempio, si potrebbe utilizzare la distribuzione "stable" e agganciare un determinato pacchetto a "testing", in modo che questo sia costantemente aggiornato. Se ne conclude che pin (in questo caso) ha il significato opposto a "fermare" :-( > appuntare > Non mi piace puntina. Per coerenza dovrebbe essere appunto. Non so se > ha senso. No, non credo. Purtroppo non mi vien nulla di meglio. Forse "agganciare", "agganciato", "aggancio" (o "gancio")? > inchiodare > È corretto, ma è troppo forte. Sì. > spillare > Spillare ha il significato di "unire due cose", non di "agganciare a > qualcosa". Forse "agganciare" è quella che viene più naturale. Io l'ho usata prima e anche tu l'hai usata "inconsapevolmente". -- Au revoir. Lele... From faina.mail@tiscalinet.it Sun Mar 3 16:29:21 2002 From: faina.mail@tiscalinet.it (Emanuele Aina) Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 17:29:21 +0100 Subject: downgrade, key bindings, memory leak, pin References: <20010301194311.B499@igloo> Message-ID: <3C824F61.5060009@tiscalinet.it> Fabrizio Stefani domandò: > e per upgrade come facciamo? > promuovere? > avanzare? Aggiornare. -- Au revoir. Lele... From faina.mail@tiscalinet.it Sat Mar 9 14:04:43 2002 From: faina.mail@tiscalinet.it (Emanuele Aina) Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 15:04:43 +0100 Subject: timeout, sleep, polling References: <20020227174022.A12037@lilik.dmti.unifi.it> <3C7E5220.5060503@tiscalinet.it> <3C853546.7030801@tiscalinet.it> Message-ID: <3C8A167B.8090105@tiscalinet.it> Francesco Potorti` dubitò: > Lo so che non dovrebbe dare problemi :-) La mia domanda era: «dà > problemi?». La risposta attuale è: "Al momento no!", siccome tutte le liste debian si comportano in tal modo e, finora, non mi è mai capitato di imbattermi in qualcuno che se ne lamentasse. Il condizionale è dovuto alla mia momentanea impossibilità di prevedere il comportamento di ogni permutazione possibile di un programma di posta :-) > Se io metto il "\n-- " in fondo al mio messaggio e poi la > lista mi aggiunge un altro marcatore, i programmi di posta si comportano > bene? Semplicemente considerano il secondo facente parte della signature. > Qualcuno lo sa o ha voglia di provare? Ribadisco: le liste debian sono già impostate in tal modo (e di utenti iscritti ne hanno un bel po'). > ____________________________________ > http://www.linux.it/tp/ Ecco perché vorrei i "-- ": altrimenti mozilla questo non me lo toglie automaticamente. -- Au revoir. Lele... From stedex@interfree.it Sun Mar 10 12:05:48 2002 From: stedex@interfree.it (Stefano) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:05:48 +0100 Subject: Come back for rp3.po beta translation Message-ID: <20020310120108.008BB41CE@picard.linux.it> --------------Boundary-00=_OXARF3K8X2OZQHSNQ968 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ciao a tutti.. ecco la prima revisione del .po di rp3. Da notare che ho mantenuto la parola user name invariata come è stato fatto nella traduzione del programma KPPP che sto attualmente utilizzando. Ogni consiglio è gradito.. Grazie. 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dell'ultima versione di Yelp (0.3) scaricata con la recente beta2. --=-B1CS1ojIQ0cTtbOtBKkb Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=it.po Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 # SOME DESCRIPTIVE TITLE. # Copyright (C) YEAR Free Software Foundation, Inc. # FIRST AUTHOR , YEAR. # msgid "" msgstr "" "Project-Id-Version: PACKAGE VERSION\n" "POT-Creation-Date: 2002-03-04 22:19+0100\n" "PO-Revision-Date: 2002-03-10 19:25GMT\n" "Last-Translator: Alex \n" "Language-Team: Italiano \n" "MIME-Version: 1.0\n" "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8\n" "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n" "X-Generator: KBabel 0.9.5\n" #: src/GNOME_Yelp.server.in.h:1 #, fuzzy msgid "Yelp" msgstr "Yelp" #: src/GNOME_Yelp.server.in.h:2 #, fuzzy msgid "Yelp Factory" msgstr "Fabbrica Yelp" #: src/yelp-info.c:126 #, fuzzy msgid "info" msgstr "Informazioni" #: src/yelp-main.c:91 #, c-format #, fuzzy msgid "Could not activate Yelp: '%s'" msgstr "Impossibile attivare Yelp: '%s'" #: src/yelp-main.c:110 #, fuzzy msgid "Could not open new window." msgstr "Impossibile aprire una nuova finestra" #: src/yelp-man.c:301 src/yelp-man.c:322 src/yelp-man.c:358 src/yelp-man.c:= 390 #: src/yelp-man.c:406 src/yelp-man.c:417 #, fuzzy msgid "X11" msgstr "X11" #: src/yelp-man.c:306 src/yelp-man.c:337 src/yelp-man.c:395 src/yelp-man.c:= 422 #, fuzzy msgid "OpenSSL" msgstr "OpenSSL" #: src/yelp-man.c:311 #, fuzzy msgid "Termcap" msgstr "Termcap" #: src/yelp-man.c:327 #, fuzzy msgid "Perl" msgstr "Perl" #: src/yelp-man.c:332 #, fuzzy msgid "Qt" msgstr "Qt" #: src/yelp-man.c:342 #, fuzzy msgid "TIFF" msgstr "TIFF" #: src/yelp-man.c:347 msgid "PThreads" msgstr "" #: src/yelp-man.c:369 msgid "System Calls" msgstr "Chiamate di sistema" #: src/yelp-man.c:374 msgid "Library Functions" msgstr "Funzioni libreria" #: src/yelp-man.c:379 #, fuzzy msgid "Kernel Routines" msgstr "Routines del kernel" #: src/yelp-man.c:434 #, fuzzy msgid "Applications" msgstr "Applicazioni" #: src/yelp-man.c:439 #, fuzzy msgid "Development" msgstr "Sviluppo" #: src/yelp-man.c:444 #, fuzzy msgid "Hardware Devices" msgstr "Dispositivi hardware" #: src/yelp-man.c:449 #, fuzzy msgid "Configuration Files" msgstr "Files di configurazione" #: src/yelp-man.c:454 #, fuzzy msgid "Games" msgstr "Giochi" #: src/yelp-man.c:459 #, fuzzy msgid "Overviews" msgstr "Panoramica" #: src/yelp-man.c:464 #, fuzzy msgid "System Administration" msgstr "Amministrazione del sistema" #: src/yelp-man.c:475 #, fuzzy msgid "man" msgstr "man" #: src/yelp-view-content.c:197 src/yelp-view-index.c:355 #, fuzzy msgid "Section" msgstr "Sezione" #: src/yelp-view-index.c:325 msgid "Search for:" msgstr "Cerca:" #: src/yelp-view-toc.c:271 msgid "Other Documents" msgstr "Altri Documenti" #: src/yelp-view-toc.c:272 src/yelp-view-toc.c:502 #, fuzzy msgid "Manual pages" msgstr "Pagine del manuale" #: src/yelp-view-toc.c:273 src/yelp-view-toc.c:579 src/yelp-view-toc.c:598 #, fuzzy msgid "Info pages" msgstr "Pagine info" #: src/yelp-view-toc.c:274 msgid "Installed documents" msgstr "Documenti installati" #: src/yelp-view-toc.c:288 #, fuzzy msgid "Start page" msgstr "Pagina iniziale" #: src/yelp-view-toc.c:532 msgid "Manual Pages" msgstr "Pagine del manuale" #: src/yelp-view-toc.c:700 msgid "Scrollkeeper docs for category" msgstr "Documenti Scrollkeeper per categoria" #: src/yelp-window.c:138 #, fuzzy msgid "/_File" msgstr "/_File" #: src/yelp-window.c:139 #, fuzzy msgid "/File/_New window" msgstr "/File_Nuova finestra" #: src/yelp-window.c:140 #, fuzzy msgid "/File/_Close window" msgstr "/File/_Chiudi finestra" #: src/yelp-window.c:141 #, fuzzy msgid "/File/_Quit" msgstr "/File/_Esci" #: src/yelp-window.c:142 msgid "/_Go" msgstr "/_Vai" #: src/yelp-window.c:143 msgid "/Go/_Back" msgstr "/Vai/_Indietro" #: src/yelp-window.c:144 msgid "/Go/_Forward" msgstr "/Vai/_Avanti" #: src/yelp-window.c:145 msgid "/Go/_Home" msgstr "/Vai/_Home" #: src/yelp-window.c:146 msgid "/Go/_Index" msgstr "/Vai/_Indice" #: src/yelp-window.c:147 #, fuzzy msgid "/_Help" msgstr "/_Aiuto" #: src/yelp-window.c:148 #, fuzzy msgid "/Help/_About" msgstr "/Aiuto/_Informazioni su..." #: src/yelp-window.c:207 msgid "Help Browser" msgstr "Navigatore di aiuto" #. Note to translators: put here your name (and address) so it #. * will shop up in the "about" box #: src/yelp-window.c:539 msgid "translator_credits" msgstr "Alessandro Costantino " #: src/yelp-window.c:543 msgid "Help Browser for GNOME 2.0" msgstr "Navigatore di aiuto per GNOME 2.0" #: src/yelp-window.c:570 msgid "Back" msgstr "Indietro" #: src/yelp-window.c:571 msgid "Show previous page in history" msgstr "Mostra la pagina precedente nella cronologia" #: src/yelp-window.c:582 msgid "Forward" msgstr "Avanti" #: src/yelp-window.c:583 msgid "Show next page in history" msgstr "Mostra la pagina seguente nella cronologia" #: src/yelp-window.c:596 msgid "Home" msgstr "Home" #: src/yelp-window.c:597 msgid "Go to home view" msgstr "Vai alla vista home" #: src/yelp-window.c:607 msgid "Index" msgstr "Indice" #: src/yelp-window.c:608 msgid "Search in the index" msgstr "Cerca nell'index" #: yelp.desktop.in.h:1 #, fuzzy msgid "Get help with GNOME" msgstr "Ricevi aiuto con GNOME" #: yelp.desktop.in.h:2 #, fuzzy msgid "Help" msgstr "Aiuto" --=-B1CS1ojIQ0cTtbOtBKkb-- From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Mon Mar 11 03:58:58 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 22:58:58 -0500 Subject: fetchmail-5.9.10 (0%, 564 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203110358.g2B3wwP05019@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/domains/POT/fetchmail-5.9.10.pot has been integrated in the central PO archives. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/domains/POT/fetchmail-5.9.10.pot > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/domains/POT/fetchmail-5.9.10.pot None of its untranslated messages have been translated yet. Please consider taking its translation in charge for the Italian language. If you decide to do so, please get your team leader (if any) to inform the translation coordinator that you were assigned to `fetchmail'. Once the translation is completed, send the result to the address given below, using the Subject line: > TP-Robot fetchmail-5.9.10.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-fetchmail.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/fetchmail/fetchmail-5.9.10.tar.gz From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Mon Mar 11 04:01:21 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:01:21 -0500 Subject: fileutils-4.1.7 (92%, 25 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203110401.g2B41LT05322@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/teams/PO/it/fileutils-4.1.7.it.po has been integrated in the central PO archives, and is now kept with all other accepted Italian translations. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/teams/PO/it/fileutils-4.1.7.it.po > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/teams/PO/it/fileutils-4.1.7.it.po In this file, 356 messages have been translated already, accounting for 92% of the original text size (in raw bytes). Still, 25 messages need to be attended to. Marco d'Itri is currently assigned for the translation. Please translate the remaining messages for the benefit of users of the Italian language. Once the translation completed, send the result to the address given below, using the Subject line: > TP-Robot fileutils-4.1.7.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. In the meantime, this PO file has been submitted to the maintainer of programs using the textual domain `fileutils'. Thanks! The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-fileutils.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/fetish/fileutils-4.1.7.tar.bz2 > http://fetish.sf.net/fileutils-4.1.7.tar.bz2 From matteo.cortese@delphiauto.com Mon Mar 11 08:14:49 2002 From: matteo.cortese@delphiauto.com (matteo.cortese@delphiauto.com) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:14:49 +0100 Subject: Po di Yelp 0.3 Message-ID: <05256B79.002F6A00.00@notes.delphiauto.com> > msgid "Could not open new window." > msgstr "Impossibile aprire una nuova finestra" L'originale ha un punto finale. > msgid "Library Functions" > msgstr "Funzioni libreria" Senza "di"? > msgstr "Routines del kernel" > msgstr "Files di configurazione" Routine, file e tutte le parole straniere sono indeclinabili in italiano. > msgid "/File/_New window" > msgstr "/File_Nuova finestra" Manca uno "/". > msgstr "/Vai/_Indietro" > msgstr "/Vai/_Indice" Hai usato due volte la "I" come scorciatoia. > msgid "Search in the index" > msgstr "Cerca nell'index" Non l'avevi tradotto "indice", prima? Matteo From matteo.cortese@delphiauto.com Mon Mar 11 09:12:46 2002 From: matteo.cortese@delphiauto.com (matteo.cortese@delphiauto.com) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 10:12:46 +0100 Subject: Come back for rp3.po beta translation Message-ID: <05256B79.0034BFBE.00@notes.delphiauto.com> > msgid "Disconnect" > msgstr "Disconnettere" > msgid "Connect" > msgstr "Connettere" > msgid "Choose" > msgstr "Scegliere" Se non sono titoli ma pulsanti o voci di menu vanno all'imperativo (questo vale anche in altri punti). > msgid "logical name of interface to use (eg, ppp0)" > msgstr "nome logico dell'interfaccia da utilizzare (eg, ppp0)" Forse "es." o "ad es." =E8 meglio di "eg"? > msgid "set window title for swallowing" > msgstr "Configurare il titolo della finestra per l'inglobamento." L'iniziale maiuscola =E8 voluta? > msgid "Hour" > msgstr "Ora" > msgid "Minute" > msgstr "Minuti" > msgid "Second" > msgstr "Secondi" Mmmm... c'=E8 qualcosa che non va con i plurali. > msgid "Number of seconds in basic accounting unit: " > msgstr "Numero dei secondi per scatto : " Ci sono 2 spazi di troppo. > msgid "Waiting..." > msgstr "Attendere..." Forse "In attesa..."? > msgid "Internal error: could not open SIGIO pipe" > msgstr "Errore interno: non riesco ad aprire la pipe SIGIO" In genere il programma non parla di s=E9 in prima persona. Meglio "impo= ssibile aprire...". > "This dialog will help you set up a new Internet Connection.\n" msgstr "" "Questa finestra di dialogo ti aiuter=E0 a settare una nuova Connession= e Internet.\n" "Impostare" o "configurare" per "set up". #: rp3-config/adddruid.cc:196 rp3-config/adddruid.cc:683 msgid "Select Modem" msgstr "Selezionare modem" > msgid "You seem to have lost your modems.\n" > msgstr "Sembra che hai perso i tuoi modem.\n" > msgid "The following modems were found on your system." > msgstr "I seguenti modem sono stati trovati nel vostro sistema" O tu o voi. Per=F2 secondo me sarebbe meglio nessuno dei due ("Sembra che i modem siano andati persi", "I seguenti modem sono stati trovati nel sistema", ecc.). Rivedi tutte le stringhe in cui il programma si rivolge direttamente al= l'utente: un misto di imperativo e infinito non =E8 piacevole. > msgid "You must enter a name for your connection." > msgstr "E' necessario digitare un nome per la vostra connessione." Non puoi usare il carattere "=C8"? > msgid "Select a name for this internet connection." > msgstr "Selezionare un nome per questa connessione internet." Hai scritto internet a volte maiuscolo, a volte minuscolo... > msgid "Account name:" > msgstr "Nome Account:" "Nome dell'account:" msgstr "Username :" msgstr "Introdurre l' username che ti ha dato il provider." Togli lo spazio in pi=F9 (anche in altre stringhe). > "Digitare la password per il tuo account. Se non lo conosci, pre favo= re contatta " "la" e "per". > "Se il tuo Internet provider =E8 elencato qui sotto, per favore selez= ionalo, Se non lo " > "vedi elencato, \"Comune ISP\" =E8 consigliato." Non capisco bene il significato. Comunque c'=E8 una virgola al posto di= un punto. > msgid "Make this connection the default route" > msgstr "Rendere questa connessione l'instradamento predefinito." C'=E8 un punto aggiunto. > msgid "First DNS Server (Optional)" > msgstr "Primo Server DNS ( facoltativo )" Cos'=E8 quest'abbondanza di spazi...? > msgid "Save Log File..." > msgstr "Salva il File di Log" ... e di maiuscole? #: rp3-config/main.cc:177 msgid "" "Unable to monitor internet connection status.\n" "Dials and hangups won't necessarily be displayed correctly." msgstr "" "Non riesco a monitorare lo stato della connessione internet.\n" "Chiamate e agganciate non vogliono necessariamente essere mostrate correttamente." Vogliono? Non riesci a girare la frase evitando un termine cos=EC brutto come "ag= gaciate"? msgid "Close this dialog" msgstr "Chiudere questa dialog" "finestra di dialogo" > msgid "yes" > msgstr "si" Manca l'accento! > "installato, e riprovare. Puoi settarlo subito \n " Niente virgola prima di "e". Usa "impostarlo" o "configurarlo" invece c= he "settarlo". Fine. Cerca solo di risolvere tutti i "problemi di personalit=E0". A presto Matteo = From frick@linux.it Mon Mar 11 10:16:35 2002 From: frick@linux.it (f.riccardo) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:16:35 +0100 Subject: Come back for rp3.po beta translation In-Reply-To: <05256B79.0034BFBE.00@notes.delphiauto.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020311105036.026d9380@picard.linux.it> in data 11/3/2002, matteo.cortese@delphiauto.com ha scritto: >#: rp3-config/main.cc:177 >msgid "" >"Unable to monitor internet connection status.\n" >"Dials and hangups won't necessarily be displayed correctly." >msgstr "" >"Non riesco a monitorare lo stato della connessione internet.\n" >"Chiamate e agganciate non vogliono necessariamente essere mostrate >correttamente." >Vogliono? >Non riesci a girare la frase evitando un termine cos=EC brutto come= "aggaciate"? "riagganci"? aggiungo: >#: rp3-config/modem-edit.cc:340 >msgid "" >"Enter the information for your modem manually below, or press the \"Auto " >"Configure\" button and rp3 will try to do it for you." >msgstr "" >"Digitare le informazioni per il tuo modem manualmente qua sotto, o premere= >li " >"pulsante \"Auto Configura\" e rp3 prover=E0 a farlo per te." puoi togliere "manualmente", come detto dovresti dare una bella ripassata con un occhio alle persone >#: rp3-config/modem-edit.cc:303 >msgid "" >"No modem was found on your system.\n" >"\n" >"You should confirm that your modem is correctly\n" >"installed, and try again. You can explicitly set\n" >"it up here, but it is unlikely to work.\n" >"If you have a Windows(R) specific software\n" >"modem, it is almost certainly not supported." >msgstr "" >"Non =E8 stato trovato nessun modem nel vostro sistema.\n" >"\n" >"Dovresti assicurarti che il modem sia correttamente\n" >"installato, e riprovare. Puoi settarlo subito \n " >"da qui, ma =E8 improbabile che funzioni.\n" >"Se hai un software del modem specifico per Windows(R)\n" >"=E8 quasi certamente non supportato." incoerenza delle persone, togliere la virgola prima di e, configurare per settare, non si tratta di "software per modem" ma dei cosiddetti winmodem PS il sito web di ildp e' di nuovo down? -- saluti f.riccardo From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Mon Mar 11 11:20:26 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 06:20:26 -0500 Subject: diffutils-2.7.9 (0%, 179 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203111120.g2BBKQm13890@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/domains/POT/diffutils-2.7.9.pot has been integrated in the central PO archives. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/domains/POT/diffutils-2.7.9.pot > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/domains/POT/diffutils-2.7.9.pot None of its untranslated messages have been translated yet. Please consider taking its translation in charge for the Italian language. If you decide to do so, please get your team leader (if any) to inform the translation coordinator that you were assigned to `diffutils'. Once the translation is completed, send the result to the address given below, using the Subject line: > TP-Robot diffutils-2.7.9.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-diffutils.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/diffutils/diffutils-2.7.9.tar.gz From amardegan@iol.it Mon Mar 11 10:47:39 2002 From: amardegan@iol.it (Alberto Mardegan) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:47:39 +0100 Subject: pin In-Reply-To: ; from pot@softwarelibero.it on Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 11:21:44AM +0100 References: <20020219185244.GA1275@nano> Message-ID: <20020311114739.A1589@pupilla> On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 11:21:44AM +0100, Francesco Potorti` wrote: > appuntare > Non mi piace puntina. Per coerenza dovrebbe essere appunto. Non so se > ha senso. No, "appunto" non ha molto senso. Francamente la scelta appuntare-puntina mi piace, non trovo che la coerenza sia un problema. -- Saluti, Mardy http://castellina.org/interlingua From samu@linuxasylum.net Mon Mar 11 22:44:43 2002 From: samu@linuxasylum.net (Samu) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 23:44:43 +0100 Subject: [was apt sob] eccolo qua tutto nuovo In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020308090252.029d0bd0@pop.mail.yahoo.it> References: <20020308000806.GA6202@linuxasylum.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20020308090252.029d0bd0@pop.mail.yahoo.it> Message-ID: <20020311224443.GA3162@linuxasylum.net> --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline > >Mi trovo con dei problemi per quanto riguarda la traduzione dei seguenti > >termini: > > > >diversion > > contesto? "diversione" e' un termine ingegneristico, piu' comune e' > "deviazione" diversion nel senso di debian ovviamente .. mica in quello normale :-)) http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ap-pkg-diversions.html praticamente quando bisogna creare un wrapper (e.g. x-window-manager editor ) > > >contents file > > file sommario? ho preferito lasciarlo cosi' : file contents in quanto ci si riferisce ai file Contents quando ci si fa' un "mirror privato" (ma lo trovi anche su debian e.g. ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/Contents-i386.gz credevo qualcuno lo avesse gia' tradotto > > >mounting point (mount, unmount ecc ) > > consulta l'archivio di tp cercato .. nulla :-( > > >e anche > > > >#: ftparchive/cachedb.cc:253 ftparchive/cachedb.cc:257 > >msgid "Unable to get a cursor" > > perche' non letteralmente? > ok messo cosi' rimane solo una frase (inclusa come fuzzy per chi usa gtranslator) che veramente mi lascia in dubbio: #: ftparchive/apt-ftparchive.cc:820 msgid "Hit contents update byte limit" msgstr "Limite di byte per l'aggiornamento dei contents processati" il codice in question e' ancora + oscuro : // Hit the limit? if (MaxContentsChange == 0) { c1out << "Hit contents update byte limit" << endl; break; } ma che si sono fumati quando hanno scritto questo ???? p.s. vi mando il file (bzippato2 ) ciao Samuele -- Samuele Giovanni Tonon http://www.linuxasylum.net/~samu/ Acid -- better living through chemistry. 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This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/domains/POT/diffutils-2.7.10.pot has been integrated in the central PO archives. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/domains/POT/diffutils-2.7.10.pot > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/domains/POT/diffutils-2.7.10.pot None of its untranslated messages have been translated yet. Please consider taking its translation in charge for the Italian language. If you decide to do so, please get your team leader (if any) to inform the translation coordinator that you were assigned to `diffutils'. Once the translation is completed, send the result to the address given below, using the Subject line: > TP-Robot diffutils-2.7.10.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-diffutils.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/diffutils/diffutils-2.7.10.tar.gz From micampe@micampe.it Tue Mar 12 17:10:01 2002 From: micampe@micampe.it (Michele Campeotto) Date: 12 Mar 2002 18:10:01 +0100 Subject: Come back for rp3.po beta translation In-Reply-To: <05256B79.0034BFBE.00@notes.delphiauto.com> References: <05256B79.0034BFBE.00@notes.delphiauto.com> Message-ID: <1015950507.1239.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> Il lun, 2002-03-11 alle 10:12, matteo.cortese@delphiauto.com ha scritto: > > "Se il tuo Internet provider =E8 elencato qui sotto, per favore=20 > > selezionalo, Se non lo " > > "vedi elencato, \"Comune ISP\" =E8 consigliato." >=20 > Non capisco bene il significato. Comunque c'=E8 una virgola al posto di > un punto. Sono mostrati una lista di provider tra cui scegliere (ora non me li ricordo, ma suppongo siano tutti americani). In Italia credo dovremo usare sempre "Comune ISP" (che io cambierei in "ISP generico" o "Provider generico"). --=20 -- Michele - www.micampe.it The Internet is full. Go away. -- Joel Furr From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Tue Mar 12 17:28:31 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:28:31 -0500 Subject: texinfo-4.1a (0%, 544 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203121728.g2CHSVk25283@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/domains/POT/texinfo-4.1a.pot has been integrated in the central PO archives. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/domains/POT/texinfo-4.1a.pot > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/domains/POT/texinfo-4.1a.pot None of its untranslated messages have been translated yet. Please consider taking its translation in charge for the Italian language. If you decide to do so, please get your team leader (if any) to inform the translation coordinator that you were assigned to `texinfo'. Once the translation is completed, send the result to the address given below, using the Subject line: > TP-Robot texinfo-4.1a.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-texinfo.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/texinfo-4.1a.tar.gz > ftp://texinfo.org/texinfo/pretests/texinfo-4.1a.tar.gz From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Tue Mar 12 18:18:13 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 13:18:13 -0500 Subject: bison-1.34 (0%, 141 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203121818.g2CIIDS26913@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/domains/POT/bison-1.34.pot has been integrated in the central PO archives. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/domains/POT/bison-1.34.pot > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/domains/POT/bison-1.34.pot None of its untranslated messages have been translated yet. Paolo Bonzini is currently assigned for the translation. When you have completed the translation, send the result to the address given below, using: > TP-Robot bison-1.34.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-bison.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/bison/bison-1.34.tar.bz2 From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Tue Mar 12 19:07:32 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 14:07:32 -0500 Subject: parted-1.6.0-pre4 (0%, 297 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203121907.g2CJ7Ws29477@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/domains/POT/parted-1.6.0-pre4.pot has been integrated in the central PO archives. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/domains/POT/parted-1.6.0-pre4.pot > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/domains/POT/parted-1.6.0-pre4.pot None of its untranslated messages have been translated yet. Please consider taking its translation in charge for the Italian language. If you decide to do so, please get your team leader (if any) to inform the translation coordinator that you were assigned to `parted'. Once the translation is completed, send the result to the address given below, using the Subject line: > TP-Robot parted-1.6.0-pre4.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-parted.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/parted/devel/parted-1.6.0-pre4.tar.gz From algol@firenze.linux.it Tue Mar 12 19:47:28 2002 From: algol@firenze.linux.it (Alessio Frusciante) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 20:47:28 +0100 Subject: Po di Yelp 0.3 In-Reply-To: <1015784860.1268.1.camel@linux> References: <1015784860.1268.1.camel@linux> Message-ID: <20020312204728.1738bfc3.algol@firenze.linux.it> On 10 Mar 2002 Psyk[o] wrote: > Vi allego il .po dell'ultima versione di Yelp (0.3) scaricata con la > recente beta2. > > # SOME DESCRIPTIVE TITLE. > # Copyright (C) YEAR Free Software Foundation, Inc. > # FIRST AUTHOR , YEAR. > > "Project-Id-Version: PACKAGE VERSION\n" Dovresti riempire questi campi. > #: src/yelp-man.c:459 > #, fuzzy > msgid "Overviews" > msgstr "Panoramica" Alla lettera sarebbe "Panoramiche". > #: src/yelp-view-content.c:197 src/yelp-view-index.c:355 > #, fuzzy > msgid "Section" > msgstr "Sezione" Mi sembra piu` appropriato "Paragrafo" (immagino si tratti di un paragrafo di un documento). C'e` un motivo per cui tutte le stringhe sono marcate fuzzy? Ciao Alessio -- Why should I care about posterity? What's posterity ever done for me? (Groucho Marx) From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Tue Mar 12 19:50:49 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 14:50:49 -0500 Subject: flex-2002.3.12 (0%, 126 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203121950.g2CJonU31467@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/domains/POT/flex-2002.3.12.pot has been integrated in the central PO archives. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/domains/POT/flex-2002.3.12.pot > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/domains/POT/flex-2002.3.12.pot None of its untranslated messages have been translated yet. Please consider taking its translation in charge for the Italian language. If you decide to do so, please get your team leader (if any) to inform the translation coordinator that you were assigned to `flex'. Once the translation is completed, send the result to the address given below, using the Subject line: > TP-Robot flex-2002.3.12.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-flex.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://ftp.uncg.edu/people/wlestes/flex-snapshot-2002.3.12.tar.gz From Fabrizio Stefani Tue Mar 12 22:36:31 2002 From: Fabrizio Stefani (Fabrizio Stefani) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 23:36:31 +0100 Subject: downgrade, key bindings, memory leak, pin Message-ID: <20020312233631.B474@igloo> Su Mon, 04 Mar 2002 03:54:32 Sabrina Pampaloni wrote: > > > downgrade (di versione installata) --> retrocedere > > > > e per upgrade come facciamo? > > promuovere? > > avanzare? > > Upgrade è sempre stato aggiornare. Update è aggiornare, Upgrade dovrebbe essere il contrario di downgrade. Ciao. --------------------- Fabrizio Stefani From pampalon@mail.cern.ch Tue Mar 12 23:52:48 2002 From: pampalon@mail.cern.ch (Sabrina Pampaloni) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 00:52:48 +0100 (CET) Subject: downgrade, key bindings, memory leak, pin In-Reply-To: <20020312233631.B474@igloo> Message-ID: > > > e per upgrade come facciamo? > > > promuovere? > > > avanzare? > >=20 > > Upgrade =E8 sempre stato aggiornare. >=20 > Update =E8 aggiornare, > Upgrade dovrebbe essere il contrario di downgrade. Io ho sempre trovato upgrade come =ABinstallare la versione successiva di qualcosa=BB, questo per me =E8 un sinonimo di aggiornare. Sabrina From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Wed Mar 13 17:32:33 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:32:33 -0500 Subject: gettext-0.11.1 (6%, 241 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203131732.g2DHWXj03990@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/teams/PO/it/gettext-0.11.1.it.po has been integrated in the central PO archives, and is now kept with all other accepted Italian translations. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/teams/PO/it/gettext-0.11.1.it.po > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/teams/PO/it/gettext-0.11.1.it.po In this file, 60 messages have been translated already, accounting for 6% of the original text size (in raw bytes). Still, 241 messages need to be attended to. Giovanni Bortolozzo is currently assigned for the translation. Please translate the remaining messages for the benefit of users of the Italian language. Once the translation completed, send the result to the address given below, using the Subject line: > TP-Robot gettext-0.11.1.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. In the meantime, this PO file has been submitted to the maintainer of programs using the textual domain `gettext'. Thanks! The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-gettext.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/gettext/gettext-0.11.1.tar.gz From matteo.de.luigi@libero.it Wed Mar 13 18:05:15 2002 From: matteo.de.luigi@libero.it (Matteo De Luigi) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:05:15 +0100 Subject: downgrade, key bindings, memory leak, pin In-Reply-To: <20020312233631.B474@igloo> References: <20020312233631.B474@igloo> Message-ID: <20020313180515.GA1249@nano> On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 11:36:31PM +0100, Fabrizio Stefani wrote: > Su Mon, 04 Mar 2002 03:54:32 Sabrina Pampaloni wrote: > > > > Upgrade è sempre stato aggiornare. > > Update è aggiornare, > Upgrade dovrebbe essere il contrario di downgrade. Non è necessario. L'importante è che le traduzioni siano corrette. -- Matteo De Luigi Vuoi aiutarci ad avere le descrizioni dei pacchetti Debian in italiano? http://auric.debian.org/~grisu/ddtp/guides/guide-it.txt http://auric.debian.org/~grisu/ddtp/ddts-faq-it.txt From frick@linux.it Wed Mar 13 20:37:54 2002 From: frick@linux.it (f.riccardo) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:37:54 +0100 Subject: downgrade, key bindings, memory leak, pin In-Reply-To: <20020313180515.GA1249@nano> References: <20020312233631.B474@igloo> <20020312233631.B474@igloo> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313213632.03170bf0@picard.linux.it> in data 13/3/2002, Matteo De Luigi ha scritto: >> Update =E8 aggiornare, >> Upgrade dovrebbe essere il contrario di downgrade. > >Non =E8 necessario. L'importante =E8 che le traduzioni siano corrette. pda -- saluti f.riccardo From matteo.de.luigi@libero.it Wed Mar 13 21:47:28 2002 From: matteo.de.luigi@libero.it (Matteo De Luigi) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:47:28 +0100 Subject: downgrade, key bindings, memory leak, pin In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313213632.03170bf0@picard.linux.it> References: <20020312233631.B474@igloo> <20020312233631.B474@igloo> <5.1.0.14.0.20020313213632.03170bf0@picard.linux.it> Message-ID: <20020313214728.GA1640@nano> On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 09:37:54PM +0100, f.riccardo wrote: > in data 13/3/2002, Matteo De Luigi ha scritto: > > >> Update è aggiornare, > >> Upgrade dovrebbe essere il contrario di downgrade. > > > >Non è necessario. L'importante è che le traduzioni siano corrette. > > pda cvd? (Che Vuol Dire?) Se è una richiesta di chiarimento significa: "Non è necessario che le due parole abbiano per forza la stessa radice e varino solo nel prefisso o che siano l'uno l'esatto opposto dell'altro. L'importante è che chiariscano bene il messaggio che si vuole dare all'utente. In *questo caso* «aggiornare» e «retrocedere» sono quanto di meglio abbiamo a disposizione". -- Matteo De Luigi Vuoi aiutarci ad avere le descrizioni dei pacchetti Debian in italiano? http://auric.debian.org/~grisu/ddtp/guides/guide-it.txt http://auric.debian.org/~grisu/ddtp/ddts-faq-it.txt From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Thu Mar 14 10:55:35 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 05:55:35 -0500 Subject: grep-2.5 (100%, 0 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203141055.g2EAtZc03092@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/teams/PO/it/grep-2.5.it.po has been integrated in the central PO archives, and is now kept with all other accepted Italian translations. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/teams/PO/it/grep-2.5.it.po > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/teams/PO/it/grep-2.5.it.po All its 51 messages have been translated, and this PO file has been submitted to the maintainer of `grep', hoping s/he will include it in a future release of programs using this textual domain. Let me thank you for all users of the Italian language. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-grep.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/grep/grep-2.5.tar.gz From matteo.de.luigi@libero.it Thu Mar 14 17:17:37 2002 From: matteo.de.luigi@libero.it (Matteo De Luigi) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:17:37 +0100 Subject: pin In-Reply-To: <3C824F3A.40004@tiscalinet.it> References: <20020219185244.GA1275@nano> <3C824F3A.40004@tiscalinet.it> Message-ID: <20020314171737.GA779@nano> On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 05:28:42PM +0100, Emanuele Aina wrote: > Francesco Potorti` ricapitolò: > > >Per pin (dei pacchetti Debian) secondo me ci sono ancora queste > >possibilità: > > > > to pin, pinned, pin --> fermare, fermato, fermo > > to pin, pinned, pin --> appuntare, appuntato, puntina > > to pin, pinned, pin --> inchiodare, inchiodato, chiodo > > to pin, pinned, pin --> spillare, spillato, spillo > > > >fermare > > Mi pare neutra, non particolarmente bella, ma adeguata, nessun difetto > > se non l'anonimità. È quella che preferisco. > > In debian il "pin" permette anche di "agganciare" un pacchetto a una > qualsiasi distribuzione. Per esempio, si potrebbe utilizzare la > distribuzione "stable" e agganciare un determinato pacchetto a > "testing", in modo che questo sia costantemente aggiornato. Perché allora non "agganciare, agganciato, gancio" ? -- Matteo De Luigi Vuoi aiutarci ad avere le descrizioni dei pacchetti Debian in italiano? http://auric.debian.org/~grisu/ddtp/guides/guide-it.txt http://auric.debian.org/~grisu/ddtp/ddts-faq-it.txt From Fabrizio Stefani Thu Mar 14 20:39:29 2002 From: Fabrizio Stefani (Fabrizio Stefani) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 21:39:29 +0100 Subject: downgrade, key bindings, memory leak, pin Message-ID: <20020314213929.A687@igloo> > > >> Update è aggiornare, > > >> Upgrade dovrebbe essere il contrario di downgrade. > > > > > >Non è necessario. L'importante è che le traduzioni siano corrette. [...] > "Non è necessario che le due parole abbiano per forza la > stessa radice e varino solo nel prefisso o che siano > l'uno l'esatto opposto dell'altro. L'importante > è che chiariscano bene il messaggio che si vuole dare > all'utente. In *questo caso* «aggiornare» e «retrocedere» > sono quanto di meglio abbiamo a disposizione". Il probelma è se è il caso di usare "aggiornare" sia per "update" che per "upgrade". E' evidente che l'ultimo programma (pacchetto o quel che volete) uscito è più nuovo di quello precedente, e quindi aggiornare va bene in ambo i casi. Il fatto è che i significati originari sono diversi: upgrade => un gradino più in alto. Sono state aggiunte delle migliorie, è stato corretto qualcosa, insomma il programma funziona meglio o ha più funzionalità update => una versione più nuova, successiva come data. Ma senza scomodare un aumento di versione, forse perché non ci sono migliorie significative che giustifichino il salto di qualità. Magari sono stati corretti degli errori poco importanti, o è solo stato ripulito il codice. Sarà una questione di sfumature, ma la differenza in inglese c'è; mi domandavo se è il caso di mantenerla anche in italiano. Ciao, Fabrizio. From pot@softwarelibero.it Thu Mar 14 22:46:43 2002 From: pot@softwarelibero.it (Francesco Potorti`) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:46:43 +0100 Subject: update e upgrade In-Reply-To: <20020314213929.A687@igloo> (f.stef@inwind.it) References: <20020314213929.A687@igloo> Message-ID: Sarà una questione di sfumature, ma la differenza in inglese c'è; mi domandavo se è il caso di mantenerla anche in italiano. Finora non credo si sia mai presentato un caso in cuila differenza fosse tanto rilevante da porre il problema. Non fasciamoci la testa prima di romperla :-) From pot@softwarelibero.it Thu Mar 14 22:47:45 2002 From: pot@softwarelibero.it (Francesco Potorti`) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:47:45 +0100 Subject: pin In-Reply-To: <20020314171737.GA779@nano> (matteo.de.luigi@libero.it) References: <20020219185244.GA1275@nano> <3C824F3A.40004@tiscalinet.it> <20020314171737.GA779@nano> Message-ID: Proposta glossario: pin, to pin, pinned (Debian apt) --> gancio, agganciare, agganciato From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Fri Mar 15 04:28:02 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:28:02 -0500 Subject: flex-2002.3.12a (0%, 126 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203150428.g2F4S2f05857@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/domains/POT/flex-2002.3.12a.pot has been integrated in the central PO archives. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/domains/POT/flex-2002.3.12a.pot > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/domains/POT/flex-2002.3.12a.pot None of its untranslated messages have been translated yet. Please consider taking its translation in charge for the Italian language. If you decide to do so, please get your team leader (if any) to inform the translation coordinator that you were assigned to `flex'. Once the translation is completed, send the result to the address given below, using the Subject line: > TP-Robot flex-2002.3.12a.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-flex.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://ftp.uncg.edu/people/wlestes/flex-snapshot-2002.3.12a.tar.gz From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Fri Mar 15 14:43:09 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:43:09 -0500 Subject: fileutils-4.1.7 (100%, 0 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203151443.g2FEh9F16877@trex.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/teams/PO/it/fileutils-4.1.7.it.po has been integrated in the central PO archives, and is now kept with all other accepted Italian translations. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/teams/PO/it/fileutils-4.1.7.it.po > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/teams/PO/it/fileutils-4.1.7.it.po All its 381 messages have been translated, and this PO file has been submitted to the maintainer of `fileutils', hoping s/he will include it in a future release of programs using this textual domain. Let me thank you for all users of the Italian language. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-fileutils.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/fetish/fileutils-4.1.7.tar.bz2 > http://fetish.sf.net/fileutils-4.1.7.tar.bz2 From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Sat Mar 16 14:55:41 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 09:55:41 -0500 Subject: gretl-0.99 (0%, 1675 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203161455.g2GEtfg32076@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/domains/POT/gretl-0.99.pot has been integrated in the central PO archives. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/domains/POT/gretl-0.99.pot > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/domains/POT/gretl-0.99.pot None of its untranslated messages have been translated yet. Please consider taking its translation in charge for the Italian language. If you decide to do so, please get your team leader (if any) to inform the translation coordinator that you were assigned to `gretl'. Once the translation is completed, send the result to the address given below, using the Subject line: > TP-Robot gretl-0.99.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-gretl.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gretl/gretl-0.99.tar.gz From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Sat Mar 16 15:55:55 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 10:55:55 -0500 Subject: util-linux-2.11o (0%, 1812 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203161555.g2GFttJ02027@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/domains/POT/util-linux-2.11o.pot has been integrated in the central PO archives. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/domains/POT/util-linux-2.11o.pot > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/domains/POT/util-linux-2.11o.pot None of its untranslated messages have been translated yet. Please consider taking its translation in charge for the Italian language. If you decide to do so, please get your team leader (if any) to inform the translation coordinator that you were assigned to `util-linux'. Once the translation is completed, send the result to the address given below, using the Subject line: > TP-Robot util-linux-2.11o.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-util-linux.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://ftp.win.tue.nl/pub/linux-local/utils/util-linux/util-linux-2.11o.tar.gz From matteo.de.luigi@libero.it Sat Mar 16 19:12:06 2002 From: matteo.de.luigi@libero.it (Matteo De Luigi) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 20:12:06 +0100 Subject: General purpose In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020228225448.02df9e40@picard.linux.it> <20020302235714.GA1566@nano> <3C849245.44E8875C@iac.rm.cnr.it> Message-ID: <20020316191205.GA962@nano> On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 01:19:39PM +0100, Francesco Potorti` wrote: > > > >GNUCAP is a general purpose circuit simulator. > > Allora direi "di ampio utilizzo" o "di uso generale". > > Di ampio utilizzo no, è vago. General purpose ha un significato > preciso, quasi tecnico in questo contesto. Di uso generale e` una > traduzione formalmente corretta, ma preferisco di gran lunga > "universale", che secondo me è più preciso. Rileggevo in questi giorni l'edizione italiana dello Stroustrup (o come cavolo si scrive... imparare a scrivere il nome dell'autore è la parte più difficile nell'imparare il C++!) e ho visto che utilizzano "di uso generale". Ho deciso per questa forma. -- Matteo De Luigi Vuoi aiutarci ad avere le descrizioni dei pacchetti Debian in italiano? http://auric.debian.org/~grisu/ddtp/guides/guide-it.txt http://auric.debian.org/~grisu/ddtp/ddts-faq-it.txt From pot@softwarelibero.it Sat Mar 16 22:17:56 2002 From: pot@softwarelibero.it (Francesco Potorti`) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 23:17:56 +0100 Subject: General purpose In-Reply-To: <20020316191205.GA962@nano> (matteo.de.luigi@libero.it) References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020228225448.02df9e40@picard.linux.it> <20020302235714.GA1566@nano> <3C849245.44E8875C@iac.rm.cnr.it> <20020316191205.GA962@nano> Message-ID: > > > >GNUCAP is a general purpose circuit simulator. > Allora direi "di ampio utilizzo" o "di uso generale". > Di ampio utilizzo no, è vago. General purpose ha un significato > preciso, quasi tecnico in questo contesto. Di uso generale e` una > traduzione formalmente corretta, ma preferisco di gran lunga > "universale", che secondo me è più preciso. Rileggevo in questi giorni l'edizione italiana dello Stroustrup (o come cavolo si scrive... imparare a scrivere il nome dell'autore è la parte più difficile nell'imparare il C++!) e ho visto che utilizzano "di uso generale". Ho deciso per questa forma. Sono convinto che si tratti di una cattiva scelta. Il termine corretto è "universale". "di uso generale" è la traduzione che può esser fatta da un traduttore non tecnico, che cerca di interpretare il significato del termine partendo da considerazioni generali, senza conoscere il termine tecnico italiano. From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Mon Mar 18 16:21:39 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:21:39 -0500 Subject: parted-1.6.0-pre5 (0%, 297 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203181621.g2IGLdN29915@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/domains/POT/parted-1.6.0-pre5.pot has been integrated in the central PO archives. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/domains/POT/parted-1.6.0-pre5.pot > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/domains/POT/parted-1.6.0-pre5.pot None of its untranslated messages have been translated yet. Please consider taking its translation in charge for the Italian language. If you decide to do so, please get your team leader (if any) to inform the translation coordinator that you were assigned to `parted'. Once the translation is completed, send the result to the address given below, using the Subject line: > TP-Robot parted-1.6.0-pre5.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-parted.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/parted/devel/parted-1.6.0-pre5.tar.gz From faina.mail@tiscali.it Mon Mar 18 15:43:04 2002 From: faina.mail@tiscali.it (Emanuele Aina) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 16:43:04 +0100 Subject: pin References: <20020219185244.GA1275@nano> <3C824F3A.40004@tiscalinet.it> <20020314171737.GA779@nano> Message-ID: <3C960B08.3040606@tiscali.it> Francesco Potorti` ufficializz=F2: > Proposta glossario: > > pin, to pin, pinned (Debian apt) --> gancio, agganciare, agganciato Mi associo. --=20 Au revoir. Lele... From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Tue Mar 19 09:43:14 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 04:43:14 -0500 Subject: lynx-2.8.4.pre2 (1%, 1069 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203190943.g2J9hEZ24523@trex.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/teams/PO/it/lynx-2.8.4.pre2.it.po has been integrated in the central PO archives, and is now kept with all other accepted Italian translations. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/teams/PO/it/lynx-2.8.4.pre2.it.po > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/teams/PO/it/lynx-2.8.4.pre2.it.po In this file, 24 messages have been translated already, accounting for 1% of the original text size (in raw bytes). Still, 1069 messages need to be attended to. Giuliano Artico is currently assigned for the translation. Please translate the remaining messages for the benefit of users of the Italian language. Once the translation completed, send the result to the address given below, using the Subject line: > TP-Robot lynx-2.8.4.pre2.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. In the meantime, this PO file has been submitted to the maintainer of programs using the textual domain `lynx'. Thanks! The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-lynx.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > http://lynx.isc.org/gnumatic/lynx-2.8.4.pre2.tar.gz From mirko@lilik.dmti.unifi.it Tue Mar 19 10:01:42 2002 From: mirko@lilik.dmti.unifi.it (Mirko Maischberger) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 11:01:42 +0100 Subject: R: pin References: <20020219185244.GA1275@nano> <3C824F3A.40004@tiscalinet.it> <20020314171737.GA779@nano> <3C960B08.3040606@tiscali.it> Message-ID: <004c01c1cf2d$12192400$0100a8c0@dnsalias.org> Secondo me potrenno sorgere problemi con le GUI. Se il simbolo utilizzato per rappresentare l'operazione sarà (com'è d'uso) una puntina da disegno, scrivere "gancio" nel tooltip non ha molto senso. Vista la strada presa, meglio "puntina, appuntare, appuntato". La mia preferenza personale a questo punto è "puntina da disegno, fissare, fissato". So che non corrisponde, ma non vedo il problema, non si possono fissare pacchetti con le puntine da disegno? Scusate... Mirko Maischberger ----- Original Message ----- From: Emanuele Aina > > Proposta glossario: > > pin, to pin, pinned (Debian apt) --> gancio, agganciare, agganciato > Mi associo. From translation@iro.umontreal.ca Wed Mar 20 00:47:02 2002 From: translation@iro.umontreal.ca (Karl Eichwalder) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 01:47:02 +0100 Subject: New translation disclaimers Message-ID: Hello! The Free Software Foundation has received more translation disclaimers. Please check below if the transcription is accurate. Ensure your name and electronic mail address is written the same way you intend to do it in the PO files you produce. Please also check that the team, between square brackets, is properly identified. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca for reporting any error. Also use this address for sending any pending PO file you might have. If you happen to have a home Web page, please send me the URL, as I now maintain this information as well in the Translation Project registry. > TRANSLATIONS Esteban Manchado Vela'zquez 2002-03-12 > Disclaimer. [es] > zoso@demiurgo.org > TRANSLATIONS Paolo Bonzini 2002-01-22 > Disclaimer. [it] > bonzini@gnu.org This letter is also sent to your translating team, for informing the team members of the arrival of your disclaimer, and also as a cross-check for the electronic mail address, augmenting the chances this letter reaches you. Welcome to our Translation Project! -- ke@suse.de (work) / keichwa@gmx.net (home): | http://www.suse.de/~ke/ | ,__o Free Translation Project: | _-\_<, http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/ | (*)/'(*) From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Wed Mar 20 10:47:40 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 05:47:40 -0500 Subject: bison-1.34a (0%, 141 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203201047.g2KAleD22804@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/domains/POT/bison-1.34a.pot has been integrated in the central PO archives. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/domains/POT/bison-1.34a.pot > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/domains/POT/bison-1.34a.pot None of its untranslated messages have been translated yet. Paolo Bonzini is currently assigned for the translation. When you have completed the translation, send the result to the address given below, using: > TP-Robot bison-1.34a.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-bison.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/bison/bison-1.34a.tar.bz2 From Salvo Isaja" Message-ID: <000001c1d039$9c9af9c0$21b0d9d5@jol> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C1CFFC.571E5B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ciao a tutti, in allegato il po aggiornato di gnome-media. Come dicevo nella lista di Gnome, purtroppo ho dovuto tradurre le stringhe senza avere un feedback visivo dei messaggi nell'applicazione (non posso usare Gnome), quindi se, oltre alla classica revisione dei contenuti, qualcuno potesse dirmi se anche come presentazione è tutto a posto, gliene sarei grato. A breve anche in arrivo il po aggiornato di gdm2. 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This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/teams/PO/it/lynx-2.8.4.pre2.it.po has been integrated in the central PO archives, and is now kept with all other accepted Italian translations. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/teams/PO/it/lynx-2.8.4.pre2.it.po > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/teams/PO/it/lynx-2.8.4.pre2.it.po In this file, 91 messages have been translated already, accounting for 9% of the original text size (in raw bytes). Still, 1002 messages need to be attended to. Giuliano Artico is currently assigned for the translation. Please translate the remaining messages for the benefit of users of the Italian language. Once the translation completed, send the result to the address given below, using the Subject line: > TP-Robot lynx-2.8.4.pre2.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. In the meantime, this PO file has been submitted to the maintainer of programs using the textual domain `lynx'. Thanks! The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-lynx.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > http://lynx.isc.org/gnumatic/lynx-2.8.4.pre2.tar.gz From g.giunta@libero.it Thu Mar 21 22:50:53 2002 From: g.giunta@libero.it (Gaetano Giunta) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 23:50:53 +0100 Subject: Domande da un newbee Message-ID: <000001c1d12a$fd32a1b0$94d21d97@pcgae3> Messaggio in formato MIME composto da più parti. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1D133.5F142EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Scusate in anticipo se le domande che pongo sono apparse gia' = un'infinita' di volte sulla lista. Ho dato una (breve, lo confesso) = occhiata all'archivio e non ho trovato le risposte che cercavo per cui = ecco qui: mi sono cimentato con una breve traduzione per il prgetto phpbugtracker, = ospitato su sourceforge. Ho scaricato il glossario e le note dal sito = dell'ILDP, ma ho dei dubbi su: - traduzione di 'please': lo si omette del tutto o e' meglio usare = 'prego' piuttosto che 'per favore'? Caso tipico: nelle dialog box che = avvertono l'utente se ha inserito un dato sbagliato - uso di 'that': "that object does not exist" =3D> "l'oggetto non = esiste". Mi sembra un po' una forzatura del testo originale, ma usare = 'questo' o 'quello' mi sembra suoni male... - il termine 'debugging' e' riportato nel glossario, ma non 'bug'... - idem per 'email' e 'attachment': nel glossario non ci sono. Vanno = tradotti? - altro termine su cui sono in dubbio: reporting (e report) - status va tradotto come stato o lasciato come status ? - ed infine 'login' Grazie per aver avuto la cortesia di legger sin qui (e di rispondere, = ovviamente) In attachment metto il file originale e la mia traduzione (sono file = PHP). Se qualcuno avesse tempo e/o voglia di dargli un'occhiata per = eventuali correzioni/consigli gliene sarei grato. Chissa' che dopo = questa fatica non mi lanci a capofitto nella traduzione di qualche = progetto GNU... Gaetano Giunta =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1D133.5F142EA0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="strings-en.php" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="strings-en.php" 'us-ascii', 'nouser' =3D> 'That user does not exist', 'dupeofself' =3D> 'A bug can\'t be a duplicate of itself', 'nobug' =3D> 'That bug does not exist', 'givesummary' =3D> 'Please enter a summary', 'givedesc' =3D> 'Please enter a description', 'noprojects' =3D> 'No projects found', 'totalbugs' =3D> 'Total Bugs', 'giveemail' =3D> 'Please enter a valid email address', 'givelogin' =3D> 'Please enter a login', 'loginused' =3D> 'That login has already been used', 'newacctsubject' =3D> 'phpBugTracker Login', 'newacctmessage' =3D> "Your phpBugTracker password is %s", 'nobugs' =3D> 'No bugs found', 'givename' =3D> 'Please enter a name', 'edit' =3D> 'Edit', 'addnew' =3D> 'Add new', 'nooses' =3D> 'No OSes found', 'giveinitversion' =3D> 'Please enter an initial version for the = project', 'giveversion' =3D> 'Please enter a version', 'noversions' =3D> 'No versions found', 'nocomponents' =3D> 'No components found', 'nostatuses' =3D> 'No statuses found', 'noseverities' =3D> 'No severities found', 'givepassword' =3D> 'Please enter a password', 'nousers' =3D> 'No users found', 'bugbadperm' =3D> 'You cannot change this bug', 'bugbadnum' =3D> 'That bug does not exist', 'datecollision' =3D> 'Someone has updated this bug since you viewed it. = The bug info has been reloaded with the latest changes.', 'passwordmatch' =3D> 'Those passwords don\'t match -- please try = again', 'nobughistory' =3D> 'There is no history for that bug', 'logintomodify' =3D> 'You must be logged in to modify this bug', 'dupe_attachment' =3D> 'That attachment already exists for this bug', 'give_attachment' =3D> 'Please specify a file to upload', 'no_attachment_save_path' =3D> 'Couldn\'t find where to save the = file!', 'attachment_path_not_writeable' =3D> 'Couldn\'t create a file in the = save path', 'attachment_move_error' =3D> 'There was an error moving the uploaded = file', 'bad_attachment' =3D> 'That attachment does not exist', 'attachment_too_large' =3D> 'The file you specified is larger than = '.number_format(ATTACHMENT_MAX_SIZE).' bytes', 'bad_permission' =3D> 'You do not have the permissions required for = that function', 'project_only_all_groups' =3D> 'You cannot choose specific groups when = "All Groups" is chosen', 'previous_bug' =3D> 'Previous', 'next_bug' =3D> 'Next', 'already_voted' =3D> 'You have already voted for this bug', 'too_many_votes' =3D> 'You have reached the maximum number of votes per = user', 'no_votes' =3D> 'There are no votes for this bug', 'user_filter' =3D> array( 0 =3D> 'All users', 1 =3D> 'Active users', 2 =3D> 'Inactive users'), 'dupe_dependency' =3D> 'That bug dependency has already been added' ); =09 // Page titles $TITLE =3D array( 'enterbug' =3D> 'Enter a Bug', 'editbug' =3D> 'Edit Bug', 'newaccount' =3D> 'Create a new account', 'bugquery' =3D> 'Bug Query', 'buglist' =3D> 'Bug List', 'addcomponent' =3D> 'Add Component', 'editcomponent' =3D> 'Edit Component', 'addproject' =3D> 'Add Project', 'editproject' =3D> 'Edit Project', 'addversion' =3D> 'Add Version', 'editversion' =3D> 'Edit Version', 'project' =3D> 'Projects', 'os' =3D> 'Operating Systems', 'resolution' =3D> 'Resolutions', 'status' =3D> 'Statuses', 'severity' =3D> 'Severity', 'user' =3D> 'Users', 'home' =3D> 'Home', 'reporting' =3D> 'Reporting', 'group' =3D> 'Groups' ); =09 ?> ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1D133.5F142EA0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="strings-it.php" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="strings-it.php" 'us-ascii', 'nouser' =3D> 'L\'utente non esiste', 'dupeofself' =3D> 'Un bug non puo\' essere un duplicato di se = stesso', 'nobug' =3D> 'Il bug non esiste', 'givesummary' =3D> 'Inserire un sommario', 'givedesc' =3D> 'Inserire una descrizione', 'noprojects' =3D> 'Nessun progetto trovato', 'totalbugs' =3D> 'Bug totali', 'giveemail' =3D> 'Inserire un indirizzo valido di posta = elettronica', 'givelogin' =3D> 'Inserire un login', 'loginused' =3D> 'Il login e\' gia\' in uso', 'newacctsubject' =3D> 'phpBugTracker Login', 'newacctmessage' =3D> "La vostra password di phpBugTracker e\' = %s", 'nobugs' =3D> 'Nessun bug trovato', 'givename' =3D> 'Inserire un nome', 'edit' =3D> 'Modificare', 'addnew' =3D> 'Aggiungere', 'nooses' =3D> 'Nessun S.O. trovato', 'giveinitversion' =3D> 'Inserire una versione iniziale per il = progetto', 'giveversion' =3D> 'Inserire una versione', 'noversions' =3D> 'Nessuna versione trovata', 'nocomponents' =3D> 'Nessun componente trovato', 'nostatuses' =3D> 'Nessuno stato trovato', 'noseverities' =3D> 'Nessuna severita\' trovata', 'givepassword' =3D> 'Inserire una password', 'nousers' =3D> 'Nessun utente trovato', 'bugbadperm' =3D> 'Non potete cambiare questo bug', 'bugbadnum' =3D> 'Il bug non esiste', 'datecollision' =3D> 'Il bug e\' stato modificato il bug dopo = che l\'avete visualizzato. L\'informazione sul bug e\' stata = ricaricata con le ultime modifiche.', 'passwordmatch' =3D> 'Le password non corrispondono -- = Riprovare', 'nobughistory' =3D> 'Non c\'e\' nessuna storia per il bug', 'logintomodify' =3D> 'Bisogna aver fatto il login per modificare = questo bug', 'dupe_attachment' =3D> 'L\'attachment esiste gia\' per questo = bug', 'give_attachment' =3D> 'Specificare un file da caricare', 'no_attachment_save_path' =3D> 'Manca il path in cui salvare il = file!', 'attachment_path_not_writeable' =3D> 'Non si puo\' creare un = file nel path di salvataggio', 'attachment_move_error' =3D> 'Si e\' verificato un errore = spostando il file caricato', 'bad_attachment' =3D> 'L\' attachment non esiste', 'attachment_too_large' =3D> 'La dimensione del file specificato = e\' maggiore di '.number_format(ATTACHMENT_MAX_SIZE).' byte', 'bad_permission' =3D> 'Mancano i permessi richiesti per questa = funzione', 'project_only_all_groups' =3D> 'Non si possono scegliere gruppi = specifici quando l'opzione "Tutti i gruppi" e\' selezionata', 'previous_bug' =3D> 'Precedente', 'next_bug' =3D> 'Successivo', 'already_voted' =3D> 'Avete gia\' votato per questo bug', 'too_many_votes' =3D> 'Avete raggiunto il numero massimo di voti = per utente', 'no_votes' =3D> 'Non ci sono voti per questo bug', 'user_filter' =3D> array( 0 =3D> 'Tutti gli utenti', 1 =3D> 'Utenti attivi', 2 =3D> 'Utenti Inattivi'), 'dupe_dependency' =3D> 'La dipendenza per il bug e\' gia\' stata = aggiunta' ); // Page titles $TITLE =3D array( 'enterbug' =3D> 'Inserisci Bug', 'editbug' =3D> 'Modifica Bug', 'newaccount' =3D> 'Crea nuovo account', 'bugquery' =3D> 'Interrogazione Bug', 'buglist' =3D> 'Lista dei Bug', 'addcomponent' =3D> 'Aggiungi Componente', 'editcomponent' =3D> 'Modifica Componente', 'addproject' =3D> 'Aggiungi Progetto', 'editproject' =3D> 'Modifica progetto', 'addversion' =3D> 'Aggiungi Versione', 'editversion' =3D> 'Modifica Versione', 'project' =3D> 'Progetti', 'os' =3D> 'Sistemi Operativi', 'resolution' =3D> 'Risoluzioni', 'status' =3D> 'Stati', 'severity' =3D> 'Severita\'', 'user' =3D> 'Utenti', 'home' =3D> 'Home', 'reporting' =3D> 'Reporting', 'group' =3D> 'Gruppi' ); ?> ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1D133.5F142EA0-- From eppesuigoccas@libero.it Fri Mar 22 08:43:53 2002 From: eppesuigoccas@libero.it (Giuseppe Sacco) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:43:53 +0100 Subject: Domande da un newbee In-Reply-To: <000001c1d12a$fd32a1b0$94d21d97@pcgae3> References: <000001c1d12a$fd32a1b0$94d21d97@pcgae3> Message-ID: <20020322084353.GB949@libero.it> Il Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 11:50:53PM +0100, Gaetano Giunta ha scritto: > - traduzione di 'please': lo si omette del tutto o e' meglio usare 'prego' piuttosto che 'per favore'? Caso tipico: nelle dialog box che avvertono l'utente se ha inserito un dato sbagliato io normalmente lo ometto > - il termine 'debugging' e' riportato nel glossario, ma non 'bug'... ho provato a tradurre bug con anomalia, ma sono stato molto criticato. Mi sa che convenga lasciarlo invariato. > - idem per 'email' e 'attachment': nel glossario non ci sono. Vanno tradotti? Direi che email è invariato, ma attachment è allegato. > - altro termine su cui sono in dubbio: reporting (e report) segnalazione > - status va tradotto come stato o lasciato come status ? Io direi stato. Ciao, Giuseppe From celli@iac.rm.cnr.it Fri Mar 22 09:35:33 2002 From: celli@iac.rm.cnr.it (Andrea Celli) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 10:35:33 +0100 Subject: Domande da un newbee References: <000001c1d12a$fd32a1b0$94d21d97@pcgae3> <20020322084353.GB949@libero.it> Message-ID: <3C9AFAE5.9622A948@iac.rm.cnr.it> Giuseppe Sacco wrote: > > Il Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 11:50:53PM +0100, Gaetano Giunta ha scritto: > > - traduzione di 'please': lo si omette del tutto o e' meglio usare 'prego' piuttosto che 'per favore'? Caso tipico: nelle dialog box che avvertono l'utente se ha inserito un dato sbagliato > > io normalmente lo ometto Io, vado un po' a ruota libera, in base al contesto. In italiano a volte va bene tradurlo, a volte suona ridondante e/o ampolloso, a volte si puo` sostituire con qualcosa di piu` specifico per il contesto ( "attenzione alla correttezza dei dati"). > > > - il termine 'debugging' e' riportato nel glossario, ma non 'bug'... > > ho provato a tradurre bug con anomalia, ma sono stato molto criticato. > Mi sa che convenga lasciarlo invariato. Io userei "baco"; e` appastanza comunemente usato e il primo "bug" della storia pare fosse proprio un insetto che si era infilato sotto una valvola :-) Per debugging purtroppo non esiste un termine "sbacare/debacare". Termini analoghi usati nel linguaggio comune (spulciare, spidocchiare, disinfestare, ...) in informatica sarebbero pure "invenzioni". Quindi, resta rigorosamente da non tradurre. Peccato che bug non sia stato subito tradotto in "pulce". :-( Avremmo una bellissima coppia (bug=pulce, debug=spulciare) che oggi come oggi sarebbe improponibile. ciao, andrea From pot@softwarelibero.it Fri Mar 22 10:21:01 2002 From: pot@softwarelibero.it (Francesco Potorti`) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 11:21:01 +0100 Subject: Domande da un newbee In-Reply-To: <000001c1d12a$fd32a1b0$94d21d97@pcgae3> (g.giunta@libero.it) References: <000001c1d12a$fd32a1b0$94d21d97@pcgae3> Message-ID: - traduzione di 'please': lo si omette del tutto o e' meglio usare 'prego' piuttosto che 'per favore'? Caso tipico: nelle dialog box che avvertono l'utente se ha inserito un dato sbagliato Non è un termine tecnico, rientra nei normali problemi di chi traduce. Cerca di tradurre in un italiano corretto e andrà bene. Tradurre in un'altra lingua non significa trasformare le parole una per una. - uso di 'that': "that object does not exist" => "l'oggetto non esiste". Mi sembra un po' una forzatura del testo originale, ma usare 'questo' o 'quello' mi sembra suoni male... Vedi sopra. Hai mai tradotto prima un testo inglese in italiano? Magari prova a fare un po' di pratica con qualcosa di non tecnico, per prendere la mano. - il termine 'debugging' e' riportato nel glossario, ma non 'bug'... bug è errore, ma una sua decente traduzione dipende molto dal contesto. - idem per 'email' e 'attachment': nel glossario non ci sono. Vanno tradotti? Email è posta elettronica, attachment è allegato. Ci sono su qualunque dizionario. - altro termine su cui sono in dubbio: reporting (e report) Come sopra. Normalmente è rapporto, ma una buona traduzione dipende dal contesto. - status va tradotto come stato o lasciato come status ? Usa un comune dizionario, buon senso e orecchio. Certamente va tradotto. - ed infine 'login' Questo è difficile da tradurre, e dipende molto dal contesto. Se lo mandi, possiamo provare qualche suggerimento. From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Sat Mar 23 03:30:31 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 22:30:31 -0500 Subject: texinfo-4.1b (0%, 544 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203230330.g2N3UVw08900@bor.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/domains/POT/texinfo-4.1b.pot has been integrated in the central PO archives. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/domains/POT/texinfo-4.1b.pot > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/domains/POT/texinfo-4.1b.pot None of its untranslated messages have been translated yet. Please consider taking its translation in charge for the Italian language. If you decide to do so, please get your team leader (if any) to inform the translation coordinator that you were assigned to `texinfo'. Once the translation is completed, send the result to the address given below, using the Subject line: > TP-Robot texinfo-4.1b.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-texinfo.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/texinfo-4.1b.tar.gz > ftp://texinfo.org/texinfo/pretests/texinfo-4.1b.tar.gz From Salvo Isaja" <000001c1d039$9c9af9c0$21b0d9d5@jol> Message-ID: <000001c1d2b0$59d20e20$42b0d9d5@jol> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C1D258.FF7CAB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In allegato il po aggiornato di gdm2. Stesse considerazioni di gnome-media, per cui attendo ancora commenti. 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at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/domains/POT/texinfo-4.1c.pot has been integrated in the central PO archives. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/domains/POT/texinfo-4.1c.pot > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/domains/POT/texinfo-4.1c.pot None of its untranslated messages have been translated yet. Please consider taking its translation in charge for the Italian language. If you decide to do so, please get your team leader (if any) to inform the translation coordinator that you were assigned to `texinfo'. Once the translation is completed, send the result to the address given below, using the Subject line: > TP-Robot texinfo-4.1c.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-texinfo.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/texinfo-4.1c.tar.gz > ftp://texinfo.org/texinfo/pretests/texinfo-4.1c.tar.gz From matteo.de.luigi@libero.it Sun Mar 24 13:04:13 2002 From: matteo.de.luigi@libero.it (Matteo De Luigi) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 14:04:13 +0100 Subject: gdm2 In-Reply-To: <000001c1d2b0$59d20e20$42b0d9d5@jol> References: <000001c1d039$9c9af9c0$21b0d9d5@jol> <000001c1d2b0$59d20e20$42b0d9d5@jol> Message-ID: <20020324130413.GA1625@nano> On Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 10:53:42AM +0100, Salvo Isaja wrote: > In allegato il po aggiornato di gdm2. > Stesse considerazioni di gnome-media, per cui attendo ancora commenti. Una cosa che mi è capitata aggiornando i pacchetti Debian e che mi ha fatto impazzire: #: gui/gdmlogin.c:3733 gui/gdmlogin.c:3773 gui/greeter/greeter.c:409 #: gui/greeter/greeter.c:449 msgid "Reboot" msgstr "Riavvia" #: gui/gdmlogin.c:3771 gui/greeter/greeter.c:447 msgid "Restart" msgstr "Riavvia" Uno si trova due bottoni con scritto "Riavvia". Metterei "Riesegui gdm" o "Riavvia il sistema" (giusto per essere esplicito). -- Matteo De Luigi Vuoi aiutarci ad avere le descrizioni dei pacchetti Debian in italiano? http://auric.debian.org/~grisu/ddtp/guides/guide-it.txt http://auric.debian.org/~grisu/ddtp/ddts-faq-it.txt From faina.mail@tiscali.it Sat Mar 23 14:03:57 2002 From: faina.mail@tiscali.it (Emanuele Aina) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 15:03:57 +0100 Subject: Domande da un newbee References: <000001c1d12a$fd32a1b0$94d21d97@pcgae3> <20020322084353.GB949@libero.it> <3C9AFAE5.9622A948@iac.rm.cnr.it> Message-ID: <3C9C8B4D.80208@tiscali.it> Andrea Celli sugger=EC: > Io userei "baco"; e` appastanza comunemente usato e il primo "bug" dell= a > storia > pare fosse proprio un insetto che si era infilato sotto una valvola :-)= Concordo sull'utilizzo di baco al posto di bug: ha il pregio di essere una traduzione letterale e di rendere perfettamente il suono originale (in modo che chiunque lo senta capisca il riferimento). --=20 Au revoir. Lele... From faina.mail@tiscali.it Sun Mar 24 18:03:33 2002 From: faina.mail@tiscali.it (Emanuele Aina) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:03:33 +0100 Subject: pin References: <20020219185244.GA1275@nano> <3C824F3A.40004@tiscalinet.it> <20020314171737.GA779@nano> <3C960B08.3040606@tiscali.it> <004c01c1cf2d$12192400$0100a8c0@dnsalias.org> Message-ID: <3C9E14F5.3050107@tiscali.it> Mirko Maischberger congettur=F2: > Secondo me potrenno sorgere problemi con le GUI. Se il simbolo > utilizzato per rappresentare l'operazione sar=E0 (com'=E8 d'uso) una > puntina da disegno, scrivere "gancio" nel tooltip non ha molto > senso. Non hai del tutto torto ma (e c'=E8 sempre un ma)... > Vista la strada presa, meglio "puntina, appuntare, appuntato". =2E..se devo essere del tutto sincero "appuntato" non =E8 che mi piaccia particolarmente. > La mia preferenza personale a questo punto =E8 "puntina da disegno, > fissare, fissato". Meglio "puntina" senza specificare "da disegno", altrimenti diventa un po' troppo lungo :) > So che non corrisponde, ma non vedo il problema, non si possono > fissare pacchetti con le puntine da disegno? "Puntina" corrisponde meglio a "pin" che "gancio". Solamente preferisco quest'ultima traduzione dal punto di vista della sonorit=E0 e della lunghezza ("pin" =E8 un termine *tremendamente* corto: se si riuscisse a mantenere questa concisione nella traduzione sarebbe sicuramente un pregio). > Scusate... Ci mancherebbe altro. ( Tra l'altro: ancora, ancorare, ancoraggio? Io continuo a preferire gancio) --=20 Au revoir. Lele... From pot@softwarelibero.it Sun Mar 24 18:14:58 2002 From: pot@softwarelibero.it (Francesco Potorti`) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:14:58 +0100 Subject: pin In-Reply-To: <3C9E14F5.3050107@tiscali.it> (faina.mail@tiscali.it) References: <20020219185244.GA1275@nano> <3C824F3A.40004@tiscalinet.it> <20020314171737.GA779@nano> <3C960B08.3040606@tiscali.it> <004c01c1cf2d$12192400$0100a8c0@dnsalias.org> <3C9E14F5.3050107@tiscali.it> Message-ID: > Secondo me potrenno sorgere problemi con le GUI. Se il simbolo > utilizzato per rappresentare l'operazione sarà (com'è d'uso) una > puntina da disegno, scrivere "gancio" nel tooltip non ha molto > senso. A mio gusto è meglio convivere con un'incoerenza fra parola gancio e disegnino (puntina da disegno) piuttosto che con `puntina, appuntare, appuntato' o variazioni sul tema. From pot@softwarelibero.it Sun Mar 24 18:16:07 2002 From: pot@softwarelibero.it (Francesco Potorti`) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 19:16:07 +0100 Subject: Domande da un newbee In-Reply-To: <3C9C8B4D.80208@tiscali.it> (faina.mail@tiscali.it) References: <000001c1d12a$fd32a1b0$94d21d97@pcgae3> <20020322084353.GB949@libero.it> <3C9AFAE5.9622A948@iac.rm.cnr.it> <3C9C8B4D.80208@tiscali.it> Message-ID: Concordo sull'utilizzo di baco al posto di bug: ha il pregio di essere una traduzione letterale e di rendere perfettamente il suono originale (in modo che chiunque lo senta capisca il riferimento). Io personalmente condivido, e sono sempre stato un gran tifoso di baco come traduzione di bug, ma finora tutte le volte che se n'è parlato ci sono state forti opposizioni, che è la ragione per cui non c'è nel glossario. From matteo.de.luigi@libero.it Sun Mar 24 21:10:46 2002 From: matteo.de.luigi@libero.it (Matteo De Luigi) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 22:10:46 +0100 Subject: pin In-Reply-To: References: <20020219185244.GA1275@nano> <3C824F3A.40004@tiscalinet.it> <20020314171737.GA779@nano> <3C960B08.3040606@tiscali.it> <004c01c1cf2d$12192400$0100a8c0@dnsalias.org> <3C9E14F5.3050107@tiscali.it> Message-ID: <20020324211046.GA971@nano> On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 07:14:58PM +0100, Francesco Potorti` wrote: > > Secondo me potrenno sorgere problemi con le GUI. Se il simbolo > > utilizzato per rappresentare l'operazione sarà (com'è d'uso) una > > puntina da disegno, scrivere "gancio" nel tooltip non ha molto > > senso. > > A mio gusto è meglio convivere con un'incoerenza fra parola gancio e > disegnino (puntina da disegno) piuttosto che con `puntina, appuntare, > appuntato' o variazioni sul tema. Non si può agganciare qualcosa con uno spillo? agganciare, agganciato, spillo -- Matteo De Luigi Vuoi aiutarci ad avere le descrizioni dei pacchetti Debian in italiano? http://auric.debian.org/~grisu/ddtp/guides/guide-it.txt http://auric.debian.org/~grisu/ddtp/ddts-faq-it.txt From Salvo Isaja" <20020322084353.GB949@libero.it> <3C9AFAE5.9622A948@iac.rm.cnr.it> <3C9C8B4D.80208@tiscali.it> Message-ID: <001e01c1d379$c6343ba0$1c40ffd5@jol> > Concordo sull'utilizzo di baco al posto di bug: ha il pregio di essere > una traduzione letterale e di rendere perfettamente il suono originale > (in modo che chiunque lo senta capisca il riferimento). > > Io personalmente condivido, e sono sempre stato un gran tifoso di baco > come traduzione di bug, ma finora tutte le volte che se n'è parlato ci > sono state forti opposizioni, che è la ragione per cui non c'è nel > glossario. Io per esempio rabbrividisco... -- Salvo Isaja Sampled Sensations - digital music : http://www.sampsens.cjb.net FreeDOS 32 - the 32-bit DOS : http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net 2002 PGP Key f/p: D580 86D7 675C 5487 1B0A E78B 9FB4 7CE5 6545 2EED From pot@softwarelibero.it Mon Mar 25 08:50:32 2002 From: pot@softwarelibero.it (Francesco Potorti`) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 09:50:32 +0100 Subject: pin In-Reply-To: <20020324211046.GA971@nano> (matteo.de.luigi@libero.it) References: <20020219185244.GA1275@nano> <3C824F3A.40004@tiscalinet.it> <20020314171737.GA779@nano> <3C960B08.3040606@tiscali.it> <004c01c1cf2d$12192400$0100a8c0@dnsalias.org> <3C9E14F5.3050107@tiscali.it> <20020324211046.GA971@nano> Message-ID: > A mio gusto è meglio convivere con un'incoerenza fra parola gancio e > disegnino (puntina da disegno) piuttosto che con `puntina, appuntare, > appuntato' o variazioni sul tema. Non si può agganciare qualcosa con uno spillo? agganciare, agganciato, spillo Anche qui, l'incoerenza derivante dal disegnino mi sembra meno grave di quella derivante dal'accostamento di agganciare e spillo. From faina.mail@tiscali.it Mon Mar 25 15:07:06 2002 From: faina.mail@tiscali.it (Emanuele Aina) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 16:07:06 +0100 Subject: Domande da un newbee References: <000001c1d12a$fd32a1b0$94d21d97@pcgae3><20020322084353.GB949@libero.it> <3C9AFAE5.9622A948@iac.rm.cnr.it> <3C9C8B4D.80208@tiscali.it> <001e01c1d379$c6343ba0$1c40ffd5@jol> Message-ID: <3C9F3D1A.6070203@tiscali.it> Salvo Isaja rabbrivid=EC: > Io per esempio rabbrividisco... Beh, copriti... :-P Meno scherzosamente, cos'=E8 che ti infastdisce particolarmente? In fondo= suona "strano" tanto quanto in originale. Lasciarlo intradotto mi pare un peccato, "anomalia" =E8 buono ma alquanto distante... > -- Por favor, fai seguire i "--" da uno spazio, cos=EC che mozilla mi tolga la signature nella risposta :-) Apropos, ringrazio per l'attenzione da parte dei coordinatori della lista :-) > -- > http://www.linux.it/tp/ --=20 Au revoir. Lele... From faina.mail@tiscali.it Mon Mar 25 15:08:54 2002 From: faina.mail@tiscali.it (Emanuele Aina) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 16:08:54 +0100 Subject: pin References: <20020219185244.GA1275@nano> <3C824F3A.40004@tiscalinet.it> <20020314171737.GA779@nano> <3C960B08.3040606@tiscali.it> <004c01c1cf2d$12192400$0100a8c0@dnsalias.org> <3C9E14F5.3050107@tiscali.it> <20020324211046.GA971@nano> Message-ID: <3C9F3D86.4020001@tiscali.it> Francesco Potorti` afferm=F2: > agganciare, agganciato, spillo >=20 > Anche qui, l'incoerenza derivante dal disegnino mi sembra meno grave di= > quella derivante dal'accostamento di agganciare e spillo. Mi associo. --=20 Au revoir. Lele... From celli@iac.rm.cnr.it Mon Mar 25 15:20:34 2002 From: celli@iac.rm.cnr.it (Andrea Celli) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 16:20:34 +0100 Subject: Domande da un newbee References: <000001c1d12a$fd32a1b0$94d21d97@pcgae3><20020322084353.GB949@libero.it> <3C9AFAE5.9622A948@iac.rm.cnr.it> <3C9C8B4D.80208@tiscali.it> <001e01c1d379$c6343ba0$1c40ffd5@jol> Message-ID: <3C9F4042.CF0ECB06@iac.rm.cnr.it> Salvo Isaja wrote: > > > Concordo sull'utilizzo di baco al posto di bug: ha il pregio di essere > > una traduzione letterale e di rendere perfettamente il suono originale > > (in modo che chiunque lo senta capisca il riferimento). > > > > Io personalmente condivido, e sono sempre stato un gran tifoso di baco > > come traduzione di bug, ma finora tutte le volte che se n'è parlato ci > > sono state forti opposizioni, che è la ragione per cui non c'è nel > > glossario. > > Io per esempio rabbrividisco... Ti fanno tanto schifo questi animaletti? :-) D'altra parte, come dicevo, il primo "bug" della storia dell'informatica era proprio un bacarozzo :-) Ammetto, pero`, che probabilmente si trattava di un coleottero e non di una larva di farfalla. Poi, il termine si e` affermato perche' rende bene l'idea di qualcosa che si insinua di nascosto nei tuoi programmi e che ti costringe a 'spulciare' (sia nel senso etimologico che figurato) riga per riga tutto il codice per individuarlo e rimuoverlo. ciao, Andrea From pot@softwarelibero.it Mon Mar 25 17:27:53 2002 From: pot@softwarelibero.it (Francesco Potorti`) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 18:27:53 +0100 Subject: Domande da un newbee In-Reply-To: <3C9F3D1A.6070203@tiscali.it> (faina.mail@tiscali.it) References: <000001c1d12a$fd32a1b0$94d21d97@pcgae3> <20020322084353.GB949@libero.it> <3C9AFAE5.9622A948@iac.rm.cnr.it> <3C9C8B4D.80208@tiscali.it> <001e01c1d379$c6343ba0$1c40ffd5@jol> <3C9F3D1A.6070203@tiscali.it> Message-ID: Meno scherzosamente, cos'è che ti infastdisce particolarmente? In fondo suona "strano" tanto quanto in originale. Lasciarlo intradotto mi pare un peccato, "anomalia" è buono ma alquanto distante... No, un momento, anomalia *non* va bene. Un baco è generalmente un errore, non un'anomalia. Quando un tecnico parla di un baco, dice bug, baco, errore, schifezza, certamente non dice anomalia. > -- Por favor, fai seguire i "--" da uno spazio, così che mozilla mi tolga la signature nella risposta :-) Lo spazio c'era. Da tutte e due le parti. From Salvo Isaja" <20020219185244.GA1275@nano> <3C824F3A.40004@tiscalinet.it> <20020314171737.GA779@nano> <3C960B08.3040606@tiscali.it> <004c01c1cf2d$12192400$0100a8c0@dnsalias.org> <3C9E14F5.3050107@tiscali.it> <20020324211046.GA971@nano> Message-ID: <002e01c1d443$d122ca20$8209d5d5@jol> > > > Secondo me potrenno sorgere problemi con le GUI. Se il simbolo > > > utilizzato per rappresentare l'operazione sarà (com'è d'uso) una > > > puntina da disegno, scrivere "gancio" nel tooltip non ha molto > > > senso. > > > > A mio gusto è meglio convivere con un'incoerenza fra parola gancio e > > disegnino (puntina da disegno) piuttosto che con `puntina, appuntare, > > appuntato' o variazioni sul tema. > > Non si può agganciare qualcosa con uno spillo? > > agganciare, agganciato, spillo Scusate se dico assudrità, passo di qua per caso... Ma se si parla della puntina per fissare le finestre sul desktop, non si può semplicemente parlare di puntina e fissare? BTW, il disegno della puntina credo che noi italiani lo recepiamo poco, visto che usiamo quelle con la testa piatta. RiBTW a suo tempo mi diceste di tradurre sticky con appiccica. Per finire... è normale avere 1024 destinatari per ogni mail? Ciao, -- Salvo Isaja Sampled Sensations - digital music : http://www.sampsens.cjb.net FreeDOS 32 - the 32-bit DOS : http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net 2002 PGP Key f/p: D580 86D7 675C 5487 1B0A E78B 9FB4 7CE5 6545 2EED From Salvo Isaja" <20020322084353.GB949@libero.it> <3C9AFAE5.9622A948@iac.rm.cnr.it> <3C9C8B4D.80208@tiscali.it> <001e01c1d379$c6343ba0$1c40ffd5@jol> <3C9F3D1A.6070203@tiscali.it> Message-ID: <005a01c1d445$9593ae00$8209d5d5@jol> > > Io per esempio rabbrividisco... > > Beh, copriti... :-P Ci provo, ma è qualcosa di più vicerale... > Meno scherzosamente, cos'è che ti infastdisce particolarmente? In fondo > suona "strano" tanto quanto in originale. Lasciarlo intradotto mi pare > un peccato, "anomalia" è buono ma alquanto distante... Secondo me è inutile tradurlo perché è estremamente diffuso. Poi... se uno vuole dirlo non è che non lo capisco, ma semplicemente mi sembra (opinione personale) una forzatura. > Ti fanno tanto schifo questi animaletti? :-) Beh, veramente sì :-) > D'altra parte, come dicevo, il primo "bug" della storia dell'informatica > era proprio un bacarozzo :-) Appunto, era un bacarozzo... quindi se proprio vogliamo tradurlo è "blatta"! Però anche "bacarozzo" è molto interessante. Insomma... baco è un termine che qualcuno ha inventato perché gli pareva che voleva dire quello... a mo di "second me". > Poi, il termine si e` affermato perche' rende bene l'idea > di qualcosa che si insinua di nascosto nei tuoi programmi > e che ti costringe a 'spulciare' (sia nel senso etimologico > che figurato) riga per riga tutto il codice per individuarlo > e rimuoverlo. Il baco però maturando diventa una farfalla, mentre un bug maturando (o correggendolo, se preferisci) te ne tira fuori altri tre in una snervante ricorsione :-) > > -- > > Por favor, fai seguire i "--" da uno spazio, così che mozilla mi tolga > la signature nella risposta :-) Dici a me o è riferito alla firma della m/l? O entrambe? Io non sapevo che i "--" avessero un significato particolare per i client, li avevo messi solo perché mi ci piacevano :-) Se qualcuno volesse illuminarmi mi uniformerò con piacere. Ciao, (con lo spazio) -- Salvo Isaja Sampled Sensations - digital music : http://www.sampsens.cjb.net FreeDOS 32 - the 32-bit DOS : http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net 2002 PGP Key f/p: D580 86D7 675C 5487 1B0A E78B 9FB4 7CE5 6545 2EED From celli@iac.rm.cnr.it Tue Mar 26 09:43:27 2002 From: celli@iac.rm.cnr.it (Andrea Celli) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:43:27 +0100 Subject: Domande da un newbee References: <000001c1d12a$fd32a1b0$94d21d97@pcgae3><20020322084353.GB949@libero.it> <3C9AFAE5.9622A948@iac.rm.cnr.it> <3C9C8B4D.80208@tiscali.it> <001e01c1d379$c6343ba0$1c40ffd5@jol> <3C9F3D1A.6070203@tiscali.it> <005a01c1d445$9593ae00$8209d5d5@jol> Message-ID: <3CA042BF.1BFCDFBA@iac.rm.cnr.it> Salvo Isaja wrote: > ............. > > D'altra parte, come dicevo, il primo "bug" della storia dell'informatica > > era proprio un bacarozzo :-) > > Appunto, era un bacarozzo... quindi se proprio vogliamo tradurlo è "blatta"! > Però anche "bacarozzo" è molto interessante. Insomma... baco è un termine > che qualcuno ha inventato perché gli pareva che voleva dire quello... a mo > di "second me". Qui andiamo sulle sottigliezze da entomologo. :-) La traduzione "baco" non era solo un "secondo me" ma anche un'assonanza. Adesso e` comunemente usato da moltissime persone e compreso da tutti. E questo e` quello che per noi e` importante. Detto sottovoce -altrimenti Potorti` mi sgrida :-)- se adesso potessimo ancora inventare, piuttosto che bacarozzo userei pulce(bug) a cui corrisponderebbe immediatamente il verbo spulciare(debug). > > Poi, il termine si e` affermato perche' rende bene l'idea > > di qualcosa che si insinua di nascosto nei tuoi programmi > > e che ti costringe a 'spulciare' (sia nel senso etimologico > > che figurato) riga per riga tutto il codice per individuarlo > > e rimuoverlo. > > Il baco però maturando diventa una farfalla, mentre un bug maturando (o > correggendolo, se preferisci) te ne tira fuori altri tre in una snervante > ricorsione :-) > Il baco, intanto che matura, mangia il frutto del tuo lavoro (mela, albicocca, ..., programma) rendendolo inutilizzabile. :-) Anzi, basta la sua presenza perche' un utilizzatore avveduto rifiuti il prodotto ortofrutticolo o informatico. Tu non compreresti/installeresti un programma con un bug esattamente come una massaia non comprerebbe una pera con un baco. Questo e` vero anche per gli insetti, che pero` sono piu` visibili dall'esterno. Devi essere un bravo informatico/massaia per rilevare la presenza di bachi in un frutto/programma. Un insetto puo` aggredire un frutto dall'esterno in qualsiasi momento (come un virus o un worm in informatica), anche dopo che e` stato venduto al cliente. Un baco lo mangia dall'interno ed entra in un frutto durante la coltivazione (quando e` ancora un fiore) e in un programma durante la sua realizzazione. Come vedi le analogie non mancano. Se proseguiamo su questa strada dobbiamo spostarci in una ML di orticultura o entomologia. :-) ciao, andrea From mirko@lilik.dmti.unifi.it Tue Mar 26 11:32:24 2002 From: mirko@lilik.dmti.unifi.it (Mirko Maischberger) Date: 26 Mar 2002 12:32:24 +0100 Subject: pin In-Reply-To: References: <20020219185244.GA1275@nano> <3C824F3A.40004@tiscalinet.it> <20020314171737.GA779@nano> <3C960B08.3040606@tiscali.it> <004c01c1cf2d$12192400$0100a8c0@dnsalias.org> <3C9E14F5.3050107@tiscali.it> Message-ID: <1017142346.570.38.camel@penelope> Il dom, 2002-03-24 alle 19:14, Francesco Potorti` ha scritto: > > Secondo me potranno sorgere problemi con le GUI. Se il simbolo > > utilizzato per rappresentare l'operazione sar=E0 (com'=E8 d'uso) un= a > > puntina da disegno, scrivere "gancio" nel tooltip non ha molto > > senso. >=20 > A mio gusto =E8 meglio convivere con un'incoerenza fra parola gancio e > disegnino (puntina da disegno) piuttosto che con `puntina, appuntare, > appuntato' o variazioni sul tema. Uso una puntina (da disegno) per fissare nello spazio un oggetto. Dov'=E8 l'incoerenza? E, se non c'=E8, perch=E9 l'incoerenza sarebbe meglio della coerenza? --=20 1024D/5B35D286 Mirko Maischberger From pot@softwarelibero.it Tue Mar 26 12:58:22 2002 From: pot@softwarelibero.it (Francesco Potorti`) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:58:22 +0100 Subject: pin In-Reply-To: <1017146576.570.73.camel@penelope> (mirko@lilik.dmti.unifi.it) References: <20020219185244.GA1275@nano> <3C824F3A.40004@tiscalinet.it> <20020314171737.GA779@nano> <3C960B08.3040606@tiscali.it> <004c01c1cf2d$12192400$0100a8c0@dnsalias.org> <3C9E14F5.3050107@tiscali.it> <1017142275.579.35.camel@penelope> <1017146576.570.73.camel@penelope> Message-ID: puntina, fissato, fissare: che non è né brutto né incoerente. Sono incoerenti i termini fra loro, che a mio avviso è molto peggio di un'incoerenza con il disegnino. l'originale. Può andare, ma non è certo né bello né fedele all'originale Che non sia fedele non è vero, traduce esattamente il concetto, anche se la metafora è diversa. Non è letterale, ma questo non è un problema. Se nella prossima versione tireranno fuori una funzione hook, come la tradurremo? Una funzione hook non l'ho mai vista tradotta in italiano con gancio. Non sarebbe quindi neanche quello un problema. From translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA Tue Mar 26 21:23:44 2002 From: translation@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Translation Project Robot) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 16:23:44 -0500 Subject: lynx-2.8.4.pre2 (15%, 930 untranslated) Message-ID: <200203262123.g2QLNi319378@trex.iro.umontreal.ca> Hello, members of the Italian team at `tp@lists.linux.it'. This is a message from the Translation Project robot. I'm happy to announce that a new file, available as: > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/teams/PO/it/lynx-2.8.4.pre2.it.po has been integrated in the central PO archives, and is now kept with all other accepted Italian translations. The file should soon be made available in mirror sites as: > ftp://ftp.unex.es/pub/gnu-i18n/po/teams/PO/it/lynx-2.8.4.pre2.it.po > ftp://tiger.informatik.hu-berlin.de/pub/po/teams/PO/it/lynx-2.8.4.pre2.it.po In this file, 163 messages have been translated already, accounting for 15% of the original text size (in raw bytes). Still, 930 messages need to be attended to. Giuliano Artico is currently assigned for the translation. Please translate the remaining messages for the benefit of users of the Italian language. Once the translation completed, send the result to the address given below, using the Subject line: > TP-Robot lynx-2.8.4.pre2.it.po in your message header. You may contact either your team leader or me, if any question arises. In the meantime, this PO file has been submitted to the maintainer of programs using the textual domain `lynx'. Thanks! The following HTML pages should also be updated by tomorrow. > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/domain-lynx.html > http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/team-it.html The Translation Project robot, in the name of your kind translation coordinator. mailto:translation@iro.umontreal.ca P.S. - You may find a copy (maybe not official) of the distribution as: > http://lynx.isc.org/gnumatic/lynx-2.8.4.pre2.tar.gz From pot@softwarelibero.it Tue Mar 26 21:29:21 2002 From: pot@softwarelibero.it (Francesco Potorti`) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 22:29:21 +0100 Subject: pin In-Reply-To: <1017142346.570.38.camel@penelope> (mirko@lilik.dmti.unifi.it) References: <20020219185244.GA1275@nano> <3C824F3A.40004@tiscalinet.it> <20020314171737.GA779@nano> <3C960B08.3040606@tiscali.it> <004c01c1cf2d$12192400$0100a8c0@dnsalias.org> <3C9E14F5.3050107@tiscali.it> <1017142346.570.38.camel@penelope> Message-ID: > A mio gusto è meglio convivere con un'incoerenza fra parola gancio e > disegnino (puntina da disegno) piuttosto che con `puntina, appuntare, > appuntato' o variazioni sul tema. Uso una puntina (da disegno) per fissare nello spazio un oggetto. Dov'è l'incoerenza? L'incoerenza sta non nel significato, ma nelle parole. Si tratta di messaggi, non di discorsi, spesso si vedono solo singole parole e da lì si devono stabilire connessioni logiche, per cui è indispensabile che la radice delle tre parole sia la stessa. Su questo argomento non c'è molto da discutere, è un vincolo dovuto al tipo di traduzione. From pot@softwarelibero.it Wed Mar 27 13:06:35 2002 From: pot@softwarelibero.it (Francesco Potorti`) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:06:35 +0100 Subject: timeout, sleep, polling In-Reply-To: <1015095978.5770.8.camel@penelope> (mirko@lilik.dmti.unifi.it) References: <20020227174022.A12037@lilik.dmti.unifi.it> <1015095978.5770.8.camel@penelope> Message-ID: Il contesto è la posta elettronica. Il programma effettua il polling degli account periodicamente e poi da il "fetch" o il "retrieving" dei messaggi. Polling è termine tecnico intraducibile. Ma in questo caso non c'è bisogno di considerarlo tecnico, e lo puoi tradurre con "controlla periodicamente le mailbox" o qualcosa di simile. Fetch e retrieve in questo contesto vanno ben tradotte come hai fatto, usando recuperare e scaricare. Non esiste uno spazio per le note del traduttore in cui si indica la convenzione utilizzata per tradurre i termini tecnici? Non dovrebbe servire. Se i ltermine tecnico ha bisogno di essere registrato, abbiamo il glossario, altrimenti vuol dire che non è tradotto in modo tecnico ma libero. From faina.mail@tiscali.it Thu Mar 28 14:31:42 2002 From: faina.mail@tiscali.it (Emanuele Aina) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:31:42 +0100 Subject: Domande da un newbee References: <000001c1d12a$fd32a1b0$94d21d97@pcgae3> <20020322084353.GB949@libero.it> <3C9AFAE5.9622A948@iac.rm.cnr.it> <3C9C8B4D.80208@tiscali.it> <001e01c1d379$c6343ba0$1c40ffd5@jol> <3C9F3D1A.6070203@tiscali.it> Message-ID: <3CA3294E.1010600@tiscali.it> Francesco Potorti` precis=F2: > No, un momento, anomalia *non* va bene.=20 Ok. Io non l'avrei usato ugualmente... > Lo spazio c'era. Da tutte e due le parti. No. Salvo non lo ha messo. Gi=E0 che ci sono (sto diventando rompicoglioni, lo so :), non mettermi i= n CC, dato che sono iscritto alla ml. Grazie. --=20 Au revoir. Lele... From faina.mail@tiscali.it Thu Mar 28 15:05:32 2002 From: faina.mail@tiscali.it (Emanuele Aina) Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:05:32 +0100 Subject: Domande da un newbee References: <000001c1d12a$fd32a1b0$94d21d97@pcgae3><20020322084353.GB949@libero.it> <3C9AFAE5.9622A948@iac.rm.cnr.it> <3C9C8B4D.80208@tiscali.it> <001e01c1d379$c6343ba0$1c40ffd5@jol> <3C9F3D1A.6070203@tiscali.it> <005a01c1d445$9593ae00$8209d5d5@jol> Message-ID: <3CA3313C.3000801@tiscali.it> Salvo Isaja conferm=F2: > Secondo me =E8 inutile tradurlo perch=E9 =E8 estremamente diffuso. Poi.= =2E.=20 > se uno vuole dirlo non =E8 che non lo capisco, ma semplicemente mi > sembra (opinione personale) una forzatura. Sulla diffusione di bug, nulla da obiettare. Questa, per=F2, non =E8 una ragione sufficiente: visto che ci sono termini italiani adatti, tanto vale usarli. ;-) > Appunto, era un bacarozzo... quindi se proprio vogliamo tradurlo =E8=20 > "blatta"! > Per=F2 anche "bacarozzo" =E8 molto interessante. Insomma... baco =E8 un= =20 > termine che qualcuno ha inventato perch=E9 gli pareva che voleva dire > quello... a mo di "second me". La natura di termine "alla cazzo" c'=E8 gi=E0 nell'originale. "Baco" la mantiene anche nella traduzione (il che =E8 un pregio) > Il baco per=F2 maturando diventa una farfalla, mentre un bug maturando = > (o correggendolo, se preferisci) te ne tira fuori altri tre in > una snervante ricorsione :-) Oddio, non tutte le farfalle son belle! :-) Pensa a falene e parenti brutte (ad esempio le farfalle dei bachi da seta)... > Dici a me o =E8 riferito alla firma della m/l? O entrambe? La firma della ml =E8 ok. Solo alla tua manca uno spazio dopo i trattini.= > Io non sapevo che i "--" avessero un significato particolare per i=20 > client, li avevo messi solo perch=E9 mi ci piacevano :-) Se qualcuno > volesse illuminarmi mi uniformer=F2 con piacere. Niente di particolare. Solitamente la sequenza "-- " viene utilizzata come separatore testo del messaggio/firma. Mozilla usa questa convenzione per visualizzare la firma con un colore pi=F9 chiaro e per evitare di quotare la firma nella risposte, evitandomi di doverla tagliare manualmente. In questo caso la netiquette mi =E8 utile per fare il minimo sforzo :-) > Ciao, (con lo spazio) A me non =E8 arrivato. :-( > -- --=20 Au revoir. Lele... From salvois@users.sourceforge.net Fri Mar 29 14:22:10 2002 From: salvois@users.sourceforge.net (Salvo Isaja) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:22:10 +0100 Subject: gdm2 References: <000001c1d039$9c9af9c0$21b0d9d5@jol> <000001c1d2b0$59d20e20$42b0d9d5@jol> <20020324130413.GA1625@nano> Message-ID: <004001c1d72d$b6873920$88b0d9d5@jol> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C1D735.7EFAF8E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Salve, riguardo gdm2, ho corretto come mi avete segnalato: > Uno si trova due bottoni con scritto "Riavvia". > Metterei "Riesegui gdm" o "Riavvia il sistema" Aspetto altri vostri commenti, vedi anche per i messaggi di cui non ero certo, che ho contrassegnato come fuzzy. Aspetto inoltre i vostri per gnome-media. Ho inviato entrambi i pacchetti tradotti anche alla lista di gnome, se qualcuno volesse essere così gentile da committarli mi farebbe un grosso piacere. 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<3C9AFAE5.9622A948@iac.rm.cnr.it> <3C9C8B4D.80208@tiscali.it> <001e01c1d379$c6343ba0$1c40ffd5@jol> <3C9F3D1A.6070203@tiscali.it> <3CA3294E.1010600@tiscali.it> Message-ID: <006701c1d72e$ee08b4e0$88b0d9d5@jol> > > Lo spazio c'era. Da tutte e due le parti. > > No. Salvo non lo ha messo. Purtroppo ho constatato che Outlook elimina in automatico gli spazi a fine riga. Quindi... o mi dite come rimediare, o dovete sopportarlo ;-) > Già che ci sono (sto diventando rompicoglioni, lo so :), non mettermi in > CC, dato che sono iscritto alla ml. Grazie. Era quello che intendevo dire con "è normale avere 1024 destinatari per ogni mail?". Per il discorso dei bug, prendo atto delle vostre opinioni, ma rimango della mia idea. Senza dubbio "baco" secondo me non va messo nel glossario, visto che bug è altrettanto (se non più, ma questa è la mia opinione) utilizzato. Come "tipo di caratteri" per "font", che è stato messo nel glossario ma non è stato usato da nessuno, da quel che mi è capitato di vedere. Ciao, -- Salvo Isaja Sampled Sensations - digital music : http://www.sampsens.cjb.net FreeDOS 32 - your 32-bit free DOS : http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net 2002 PGP Key f/p: D580 86D7 675C 5487 1B0A E78B 9FB4 7CE5 6545 2EED From matteo.cortese@delphiauto.com Fri Mar 29 17:07:45 2002 From: matteo.cortese@delphiauto.com (matteo.cortese@delphiauto.com) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 18:07:45 +0100 Subject: gdm2 Message-ID: <05256B8B.005F396E.00@notes.delphiauto.com> Secondo me l'ambiguit=E0 tra riavvio del sistema e del programma c'=E8 = ancora. Ad esempio a me: msgstr "Riavvia dopo il logout" fa venire in mente che gdm butti gi=F9 la macchina dopo il logout. Biso= gnerebbe tradurre "restart" con qualcosa di pi=F9 esplicito, tipo: "far ripartir= e gdm" o "rilanciare gdm". Nella voce di menu del greeter anche "Ricomincia". Altro problema di carattere generale: nel po compaiono indifferentement= e "gnome", "Gnome" e "GNOME". Se non ricordo male, in questa lista si era= optato per GNOME (primo perch=E9 =E8 una sigla, secondo perch=E9 sul sito uffi= ciale compare sempre cos=EC). Stesso ragionamento per gdm/GDM. #: daemon/gdm.c:483 "gdm_config_parse: Impossibile trovare l'utente gdm (%s). Si prove= r=E0 con " "'nobody'!" [e altri] Se metti le virgolette intorno a nobody, le devi mettere anche all'uten= te gdm, o viceversa. In ogni caso, in italiano sono meglio le doppie (") che le singole (').= Questo vale anche per daemon/server.c:745 e daemon/server.c:751. #: daemon/gdm.c:523 "Il gruppo gdm non esiste. Correggere la configurazione %s di e riavviarlo." C'=E8 una parola mancante... #: daemon/gdm.c:552 msgstr "%s: Greeter non trovato o non eseguibile dall'utente di gd= m" [e seguente] Meglio "utente gdm". #: daemon/gdm.c:787 msgstr "deal_with_x_crashes: Sar=E0 provato il server X failsafe %= s" Pi=F9 avanti hai usato "di emergenza" per "failsafe". #: daemon/gdm.c:994 "gdm_child_action: richiesta di riavvio o arresto senza il men=F9 = di sistema da " "parte del display %s" Nel glossario menu =E8 senza accento. Richiesta dovrebbe essere maiusco= la (anche nella seguente). Questa frase =E8 difficile da capire. Prova a rigirarla, tipo: "gdm_child_action: Richiesta di riavvio o arresto da parte del display = %s " "nonostante il menu di sistema sia disattivato" #: daemon/server.c:809 msgstr "%s: Il server sarebbe dovuto essere stato lanciato dall'ui= d %d, " "ma tale utente non esiste" Piet=E0! Ti prego, trova un'alternativa!! :) #: daemon/slave.c:370 "Impossibile avviare il server X\n" "(l'interfaccia grafica) a causa di\n" "un errore interno.\n" "Contattare l'amministratore di sistema\n" "o controllare il log di sistema per\n" "diagnosticare il problema.\n" "Nel frattempo questo display sar=E0\n" "disabilitato. Riavviare gdm quando il\n" "problema sar=E0 stato corretto." Se vuoi fare un lavoro davvero elegante, vai a capo prima di "di", prim= a di "per" e prima di "il". Idem in tutti i testi lunghi del po. #: daemon/xdmcp.c:807 msgid "Denied XDMCP query from host %s" msgstr "Interrogazione XDMCP negata dall'host %s" Credo sia al contrario: =E8 lui che ha negato la richiesta da parte del= l'host %s. Quindi "all'host" invece che "dall'host". #: gui/gdmchooser-strings.c:14 msgstr "Esce dall'applicazione" "Esci"? #: gui/gdmchooser-strings.c:18 "L'area principale di questa applicazione mostra gli host della re= te\n" "locale che hanno \"XDMCP\" abilitato. Esso consente agli utenti d= i\n" "Esso" =E8 bruttino. "Ci=F2" suona meglio. Ma... non ne manca un pezzo?= #: gui/gdmconfig.desktop.in.h:1 "Una applicazione grafica per configurare lo GNOME Display Manager= (GDM)" "Un'applicazione". #: gui/gdmconfig-strings.c:22 msgstr "Seleziona un file di tema di GTK+ (gtkrc)" Io avrei messo "Seleziona un tema di GTK+ (file gtkrc)" #: gui/gdmconfig-strings.c:107 msgstr "nessuno" Maiuscolo. #: gui/gdmconfig-strings.c:137 "This is only relevant if you enable the XDMCP protocol." "Ci=F2 =E8 rilevante solo se si abilita il protocollo XDMCP." [anche seguenti] Di solito "relevant" non vuol dire "importante" ma "pertinente" o "atti= nente". #: gui/gdmconfig-strings.c:164 "Il file di sessione =E8 letto in modo che un litime pi=F9 alto =E8= ancora valido. " "Esso, cio=E8, non viene mai caricato in RAM." Refuso: "limite". Meglio "accettabile" invece che "valido". Io per=F2 d= irei: "Il file di sessione =E8 letto in modo da consentire un limite pi=F9 al= to, " "perch=E9 non =E8 mai caricato in memoria.". #: gui/gdmconfig-strings.c:215 "Selezionare una directory da usare per gli script di sessione val= idi " "pertutto il sistema" Manca uno spazio. #: gui/gdmconfig-strings.c:258 msgid "Logging directory: " msgstr "Directory iniziale :" A parte lo spazio, sei sicuro di questa traduzione? #: gui/gdmconfig-strings.c:259 msgstr "Directory dell'inizializzazione del display" Deve finire con ": " #: gui/gdmlogin.c:1502 gui/greeter/greeter_session.c:392 "altri modi. GNOME user=E0 la sessione 'Predefinita'." "Default" =E8 il nome della sessione, non va tradotto. #: gui/gdmlogin.c:2213 msgstr "Inserire 25 centesimi di Euro per entrare." Ma dov'=E8 usata questa stringa?!? :) Cmq euro va minuscolo. #: gui/gdmlogin.c:3915 "valida per la finestra di dialogo di login, e quindi =E8 stato\n"= Niente virgola prima di "e". Bye Matteo = From L.Cappelletti@mail.com Sat Mar 23 11:15:07 2002 From: L.Cappelletti@mail.com (Lorenzo Cappelletti) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 12:15:07 +0100 Subject: [GnuCash] Termini ostici Message-ID: <20020323121507.A279@quark> Ciao a tutti, sono finalmente in dirittura d'arrivo con la traduzione del .po di GnuCash. Cos'=E8 GnuCah? Si tratta di uno stupendo (IMHO) programma per la gestione delle finanze personali. Liquidit=E0, passivit=E0, attivit=E0, conti correnti, carte di credito, fondi comuni, valute estere e quant'altro la fantasia possa suggerirvi. Ok, dopo questa carrellata pubblicitaria, vengo al sodo. Ci sono alcuni termini che vorrei sottoporvi prima di inviare il file .po di 1500+ messaggi. Devo ammettere che =E8 stata un'opera dura, un po' per la lunghezza, un po' per la mia ignoranza in materia. commodity: An article that is bought and sold. The most general term of what an account keeps track of, e.g. a currency or a stock. security: A document or certificate showing who owns shares. statemente: avete presente il resoconto che banche e istituzioni di credito inviano periodicamente? Ebbene, come si chiama ogni singola riga che mostra il movimento da e per quel conto? Retained Earnings: name of an equity account; to be distinguished from the opening balance. Di questo, mi spiace, non so nemmeno il contesto. direct debit: When people can automatically deduct money straight from your account. The reverse of Direct Deposit. stock holdings: Remedial Accounting 101: invoice: dev'essere tipo una richiesta di pagamento... sollecito? Nome client: =E8 il nome del "cliente" da mettere in questa invoice. 1st Est Tax Quarter, 1st Est Tax Quarter, ... Last Yr 1st Est Tax Qtr: GnuCash pu=F2 essere calcolato anche per calcolare le tasse (con il sistema americano). Cosa indica qui l'Est? Altri messaggi: Hacking Documentation Record Keeping Price Scatterplot: grafico a dispersione? --=20 L.Cappelletti@mail.com Jabber: lolo@tipic.it Fingerprint: 8CDD 3408 53B2 6122 99DA EE37 1523 68FC D906 4C08 From eppesuigoccas@libero.it Sat Mar 30 14:39:57 2002 From: eppesuigoccas@libero.it (Giuseppe Sacco) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 15:39:57 +0100 Subject: [GnuCash] Termini ostici In-Reply-To: <20020323121507.A279@quark> References: <20020323121507.A279@quark> Message-ID: <20020330143957.GA822@libero.it> > commodity: An article that is bought and sold. The most general term of > what an account keeps track of, e.g. a currency or a stock. articolo? > security: A document or certificate showing who owns shares. certificato > statemente: avete presente il resoconto che banche e istituzioni di > credito inviano periodicamente? Ebbene, come si chiama ogni singola > riga che mostra il movimento da e per quel conto? non si dice movimento? > Retained Earnings: name of an equity account; to be distinguished > from the opening balance. Di questo, mi spiace, non so nemmeno il > contesto. Fondo di accantonamento? > direct debit: When people can automatically deduct money straight from > your account. The reverse of Direct Deposit. RID? > invoice: dev'essere tipo una richiesta di pagamento... sollecito? fattura