List-Id

Calogero Massimo Cammalleri palug@aacweb.it
Ven 30 Giu 2006 14:41:32 CEST


Memore di qualche replay sbagliato e della risposta ricevuta,
ho inviato il post che segue a al gestore della lista:

> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: Calogero Massimo Cammalleri [mailto:calacamm@unipa.it] 
> Inviato: mercoledì 14 giugno 2006 18.44
> A: Tanya Guastella
> Oggetto: replay
> 
> Scusi se mi permetto da profano a dare suggerimenti.
> Vista l'impossibilità di condurre gli utilizzatori verso un uso
> appropriato del replay, non potrebbe modificare la configurazione del
> mailing secondo gli standard comuni, cioè impostando il "list" a
> "List-Id"  (v. PS)?
> Così "rispondi" risponde all'originario mittente e "rispondi a tutti"
> risponde alla lista e la mittente.
> Sarebbe un bel risparmio di traffico (e di tempo); e un guadagno di
> privacy per gli incauti utilizzatori.
> Saluti.
> Cammalleri
> 
> PS: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html


Ho avuto questa risposta, che non ho capito:


> Per quanto riguarda il List-Id, devo dire che non ho capito bene cosa centra, anche leggendo l'articolo allegato. Allego la descrizione del comando per impostare l'header List-Id del nostro gestore di liste:
> 
> List-ID= longlistname
> 
> This keyword is not available in LISTSERV Lite, and is technically obsolete on all ports of the software except for VM.
> 
> On VM systems, this keyword allows the list owner to specify a long list ID in addition to the normal 8-character list name. This is particularly useful for peered or gatewayed lists that have names longer than 8 characters. On non-VM systems, if the normal list name is longer than 8 characters and the list is being migrated from a VM system, it may be a good idea to specify the first 8 characters of the list name in this keyword, at least temporarily. This way subscribers who were used to the old 8-character name can continue to use it on the new system.
> 
> Non-VM systems may use this keyword for aliasing. However, today there is really no good reason to use this keyword on non-VM systems, as it is possible to define lists on such systems with native file system names longer than 8 characters. L-Soft's recommendation is that this keyword be used only if you are migrating a list from VM that was known by both its "short" name and its "long" List-ID= name. (On unix you can avoid this by simply specifying an extra set of aliases in /etc/aliases for the "long" name that point to the same places as do the ones for the "short" name.)
> 
> In any case a list owner should not set a value for List-ID= without first consulting with the LISTSERV maintainer, since it will be necessary to add appropriate system mailer aliases before the name specified in List-ID= will work.
> 
> List-ID= will not work properly on NT systems running with the SMTPL "listener" because the "listener" has no way to know that the list ID specified in this parameter is a valid local address.
> 
> List-ID= will work on NT and VMS systems running LSMTP, but you must first configure a route in LSMTP for the List-ID= name so that LSMTP will know to deliver mail addressed to the List-ID= address to LISTSERV (as opposed to POP or SMTP, etc.).
> 
> Under VMS and unix, it is necessary to add the appropriate aliases to the mailer's aliases file in order for List-ID= to work, since mailers such as sendmail and PMDF otherwise have no way to know that the name specified in List-ID= is a valid address. This means that lists that have the List-ID= keyword specified need two complete sets of aliases defined (unless List-ID= is identical to the list name, in which case it should not be implemented to begin with).
> 
> Starting with LISTSERV 1.8d, if you do use List-ID= to specify a "long" name for a list with web archives, LISTSERV will create an HTML page for both the long and short names. Here again, however, on non-VM systems L-Soft does not recommend the use of List-ID= .
> 
>

qualcuno mi può spiegare o delle scuse se è il caso e suggerire una
risposta?
Grazie
Calogero



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