ArcheOS VirtualBox

[Fabrizio Furnari]

Hi, sorry for the late answer...
About the virtual image for ArcheOS I think is a good idea, I'll definitely add this task for the next version of ArcheOS (Theodoric)...
If I'll have some spare time I don't exclude that an image can be get ready also for ArcheOS 4 Caesar, but is definitely something we need to test very close...
Any preference on the virtualization format? I think OVF should be the standard now...

About the "ArcheOS on USB" thread, basically I agree with Domenico: the speed depends a lot from the hardware used, since ArcheOS is not optimized to rum from a USB pen but from a CD/DVD drive or from an Hard Disk.
Since ArcheOS is built on top of Debian Squeeze, I think this procedure should work with some minor hacks: http://live.debian.net/manual/html/live-manual.en.html#179
As we use live-build to create the template for the ArcheOS iso, we could use the lb config feature to create an img file instead of the iso-hybrid, but again, we need to test it intensively...

Hope that helps...

Ciao,


Fabrizio

On 14.12.12, 00:41, Domenico Giusti wrote:
> Don't worry, I understood.
> As I said, I'm not a developer, and I also need to study and practice.
> I tried, and I remember it was not so simply to build an USB live of
> ArcheOS. I will try again and if successfully I could write a wiki. Or
> maybe Ricardo could help us :) ?
> 
> Ciao
> 
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Nicola Schavottiello
> <nic@imagoculturae.com> wrote:
> > Yes you are absolutely right!
> > I am sorry if I have used the word "shame" I have realized as soon as I have
> > sent the email that it was not the right word.
> > What I really mean was that it is a "pity"
> > I will try to test FluxBox if I manage to install it.
> > I have never tried OSGeo-Live and I will also give it a go.
> > I am not so sure if can manage to build my own ArcheOS, I have remeber some
> > notion of  programming and compiling from my old days at school and since
> > then I only concentrate my work on graphics and 3d I am not sure if I can
> > manage again, but I will also give it a go.
> > Best of luck to you to
> > Ciao
> > Nicola
> >
> >
> > On 13/12/2012 21:00, Domenico Giusti wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Nicola,
> >>
> >> of course portable OS are wonderful instruments for teaching, etc...
> >> But don't forget that ArcheOS is a live distro, so is portable by
> >> definition. Moreover, I'm not a developer, but I think that the
> >> "speed" depends a lot on the hardware resources and I don't know the
> >> powerful of Ricardo's PC. Furthermore, we have to consider that
> >> ArcheOS is a big and complete distro, but less huge than OSGeo-Live.
> >> I don't have much experience with OSGeo-Live USB, but the choice of a
> >> light graphical environment could be significant.
> >>
> >> So, in my opinion the best approach could be in testing and
> >> benchmarking the USB live solution (before claim the shame).
> >> In the next future I will try again building my own ArcheOS-USB, I'll
> >> run it and I'll test it. After, I'll post my observations.
> >> Maybe you can do the same.
> >>
> >> Ciao
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Nicola Schavottiello
> >> <nic@imagoculturae.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> That's a shame! it would have been nice to have a portable OS, this is
> >>> for
> >>> many reasons:
> >>> portability(in fact), testing purposes, convincing people to migrated
> >>> from
> >>> other OS, teaching etc...
> >>> Well... I hope that in the future will run faster or that there will be a
> >>> portable version.
> >>> Regards
> >>> Nic
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 13/12/2012 17:33, Domenico Giusti wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Personally I've never installed ArcheOS in a USB drive with success,
> >>>> but Ricardo has done, as posted in this mail:
> >>>> http://lists.linux.it/pipermail/archeos-dev/2012-January/000293.html
> >>>> As he wrote "ArcheOS revealed to be a very "heavy" and slow operating
> >>>> system to run from a pendrive" (with GNOME).
> >>>> Instead, I'm feeling very satisfied with my virtual machine but I can't
> >>>> compare.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Nicola Schavottiello
> >>>> <nic@imagoculturae.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What about running on a pen drive or on an SD card?
> >>>>> Is this possible?How is it done? Does it run faster or slower?
> >>>>> Many thanks
> >>>>> Nicola Schiavottiello
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 13/12/2012 12:41, Domenico Giusti wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dear all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've recently helped some students from the University of Ferrara to
> >>>>>> install ArcheOS in their notebooks (most of the time with M$ or MAC
> >>>>>> OS). So, as graduated FLOSS pusher of the Department, for a
> >>>>>> low-traumatic first approach, I usually suggest to my clients to
> >>>>>> install Virtual Box and then create their virtual ArcheOS from the
> >>>>>> ISO. My ArcheOS (built from git repository) also runs in a VB machine,
> >>>>>> and some times I've exported and shared my own virtual machine.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm thinking it could be fine if ArcheOS will also be released in a
> >>>>>> virtual disk, like OSGeo Live does
> >>>>>> (http://live.osgeo.org/en/quickstart/virtualization_quickstart.html).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Have you ever discussed this possibility?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Mailing list info: http://lists.linux.it/listinfo/archeos-dev
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >
> >
> 
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