ArcheOS VirtualBox

Fri Dec 21 23:24:19 CET 2012

ciao fabrizio,

with regard to the virtualization format i agree with you.

For testing i've just exported my ArcheOS machine in OVF/OVA (about
4.1G) and cloned it in only VMDK image (about 1.7G if compressed in a
7z archive!). Compressing the OVF files in 7z format is instead 4G
(?). Maybe i've made mistake with somethings, in fact OVF is just the
combination of the VMDK image and a XML configuration file...

thank you for the opened issue.

Buone feste!

On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Fabrizio Furnari
<fab.furnari@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, sorry for the late answer...
> About the virtual image for ArcheOS I think is a good idea, I'll definitely add this task for the next version of ArcheOS (Theodoric)...
> If I'll have some spare time I don't exclude that an image can be get ready also for ArcheOS 4 Caesar, but is definitely something we need to test very close...
> Any preference on the virtualization format? I think OVF should be the standard now...
>
> About the "ArcheOS on USB" thread, basically I agree with Domenico: the speed depends a lot from the hardware used, since ArcheOS is not optimized to rum from a USB pen but from a CD/DVD drive or from an Hard Disk.
> Since ArcheOS is built on top of Debian Squeeze, I think this procedure should work with some minor hacks: http://live.debian.net/manual/html/live-manual.en.html#179
> As we use live-build to create the template for the ArcheOS iso, we could use the lb config feature to create an img file instead of the iso-hybrid, but again, we need to test it intensively...
>
> Hope that helps...
>
> Ciao,
>
>
> Fabrizio
>
> On 14.12.12, 00:41, Domenico Giusti wrote:
>> Don't worry, I understood.
>> As I said, I'm not a developer, and I also need to study and practice.
>> I tried, and I remember it was not so simply to build an USB live of
>> ArcheOS. I will try again and if successfully I could write a wiki. Or
>> maybe Ricardo could help us :) ?
>>
>> Ciao
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Nicola Schavottiello
>> <nic@imagoculturae.com> wrote:
>> > Yes you are absolutely right!
>> > I am sorry if I have used the word "shame" I have realized as soon as I have
>> > sent the email that it was not the right word.
>> > What I really mean was that it is a "pity"
>> > I will try to test FluxBox if I manage to install it.
>> > I have never tried OSGeo-Live and I will also give it a go.
>> > I am not so sure if can manage to build my own ArcheOS, I have remeber some
>> > notion of  programming and compiling from my old days at school and since
>> > then I only concentrate my work on graphics and 3d I am not sure if I can
>> > manage again, but I will also give it a go.
>> > Best of luck to you to
>> > Ciao
>> > Nicola
>> >
>> >
>> > On 13/12/2012 21:00, Domenico Giusti wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Nicola,
>> >>
>> >> of course portable OS are wonderful instruments for teaching, etc...
>> >> But don't forget that ArcheOS is a live distro, so is portable by
>> >> definition. Moreover, I'm not a developer, but I think that the
>> >> "speed" depends a lot on the hardware resources and I don't know the
>> >> powerful of Ricardo's PC. Furthermore, we have to consider that
>> >> ArcheOS is a big and complete distro, but less huge than OSGeo-Live.
>> >> I don't have much experience with OSGeo-Live USB, but the choice of a
>> >> light graphical environment could be significant.
>> >>
>> >> So, in my opinion the best approach could be in testing and
>> >> benchmarking the USB live solution (before claim the shame).
>> >> In the next future I will try again building my own ArcheOS-USB, I'll
>> >> run it and I'll test it. After, I'll post my observations.
>> >> Maybe you can do the same.
>> >>
>> >> Ciao
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Nicola Schavottiello
>> >> <nic@imagoculturae.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> That's a shame! it would have been nice to have a portable OS, this is
>> >>> for
>> >>> many reasons:
>> >>> portability(in fact), testing purposes, convincing people to migrated
>> >>> from
>> >>> other OS, teaching etc...
>> >>> Well... I hope that in the future will run faster or that there will be a
>> >>> portable version.
>> >>> Regards
>> >>> Nic
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 13/12/2012 17:33, Domenico Giusti wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Personally I've never installed ArcheOS in a USB drive with success,
>> >>>> but Ricardo has done, as posted in this mail:
>> >>>> http://lists.linux.it/pipermail/archeos-dev/2012-January/000293.html
>> >>>> As he wrote "ArcheOS revealed to be a very "heavy" and slow operating
>> >>>> system to run from a pendrive" (with GNOME).
>> >>>> Instead, I'm feeling very satisfied with my virtual machine but I can't
>> >>>> compare.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Regards
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Nicola Schavottiello
>> >>>> <nic@imagoculturae.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> What about running on a pen drive or on an SD card?
>> >>>>> Is this possible?How is it done? Does it run faster or slower?
>> >>>>> Many thanks
>> >>>>> Nicola Schiavottiello
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 13/12/2012 12:41, Domenico Giusti wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Dear all,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I've recently helped some students from the University of Ferrara to
>> >>>>>> install ArcheOS in their notebooks (most of the time with M$ or MAC
>> >>>>>> OS). So, as graduated FLOSS pusher of the Department, for a
>> >>>>>> low-traumatic first approach, I usually suggest to my clients to
>> >>>>>> install Virtual Box and then create their virtual ArcheOS from the
>> >>>>>> ISO. My ArcheOS (built from git repository) also runs in a VB machine,
>> >>>>>> and some times I've exported and shared my own virtual machine.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I'm thinking it could be fine if ArcheOS will also be released in a
>> >>>>>> virtual disk, like OSGeo Live does
>> >>>>>> (http://live.osgeo.org/en/quickstart/virtualization_quickstart.html).
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Have you ever discussed this possibility?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> --
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>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>> >
>> >
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