AGAIN: sharing the data

Leif Isaksen
Fri Oct 6 12:50:51 CEST 2006

Dear Sam,

thanks for bringing Nabonidus to my attention - it looks like a good recording system. Am I right in thinking that it's closed and proprietary software however? Whilst I'm also keen to work towards the sharing and cross-compatability of data, I would be reluctant to have it hosted in a single 'black box' over which the archaeological community has no control in terms of functionality or licensing. What is your policy with regard to these issues?



Leif Isaksen
Application Development and Support
Oxford Archaeology

-----Original Message-----
Behalf Of Wood
Sent: 05 October 2006 15:19
Subject: Re: AGAIN: sharing the data

Sharing Data is an extremely important issue. In my opinion the value gained
far outways the complications which arise when trying to standardise data,
methods etc. If you are wanting to move to a more practical level you should
have a look at It is an evolving website for the storage,
management, manipulation and publication of excavation data. It is totally
free and we think far advanced of any data recording system in use on any
academic or commercial excavation today. 

The reason for offering Nabonidus to the archaeological community is that we
believe a system such as this could change archaeological excavation and
research across the world. It is currently used by the Pompeii
Archaeological Research Project: Porta Stabia run by the University of
Michigan and Stanford University and has the capacity to be used by 1000?s
of excavations. All data is secure and private, accessible and malleable and
the system can be adapted to any excavation?s needs. Nabonidus saves
enormous amounts of work and time for archaeologists both onsite and during
post excavation research. Even if you are currently using a database for
your excavation, all information can be easily imported from this into the
Nabonidus system. Please if you have the time; take a look at the website
and at the demonstration excavations and feel free to experiment. There is a
PDF attached with more information.

Nabonidus is produced on an entirely voluntary basis. It has been built by
archaeologists for archaeologists so if you have any questions or
contributions please get in touch at ? your
suggestions will be incorporated into the next build. 

This is the blurb from our website - after reading these threads I am glad
to see that others are considering and wanting to address the issue of
archaoelogical data sharing. Nabonidus gives you the choice of making your
data public or private so prior to publication you could keep it private if
wished then expose it all for anyone to look at. 

Please have a look, we would be happy to hear from anyone. thanks

Sam Wood

Giancarlo Macchi wrote:
> Well since Vittorio's last words things got extremely quiet in
> here:
>  > Let's try to get more
>  > practical in the next posts; if anyone agrees at all on the several 
> points
>  > that have been raised, let's try to formulate some proposals on how to
> go
>  > about it.
>  >   
> Are we stuck at this point? Yeah, I definitely think so. :-)
> In fact we are able to talk about a lot on nice theoretical
> things but when we try to move to a practical level then ...
> Well, I think that I will still insist on the
> "data sharing" issue. Which I think is actually the ISSUE here.
> Just think for a second, if the data of my archaeological models
> is available on the public domain then I am forced to be formal
> in the quantification and definition processes.  Therefore
> whoever would like to follow this path should be formal also in
> the definition of the data itself.  And finally one may also be
> forced to save his/her files encoded with common open formats.
> Roberto has always insisted on this point: "the real problem is
> the data". "Where is data?" "Do I have access to your data?"
> So, before we start to be practical let us measure if it is worth it.
> a) How many of you are willing to share their own data?
> b) How many of you are able to share their own data?
> c) What kind of data would you eventually share with the community?
>    everything? a part of it? only the part related with my published
>    models or theories?
> Once we know exactly the amount and type of information that
> eventually we will be available then probably we will decide if
> it is worth to move to a more practical level.
> Have a nice W.E.
>    giancarlo
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