Boot ArcheOS in text mode

[Fabrizio Furnari]

Hi Ricardo, I've updated the archeos-system metapackage, so if you want to
retry...
Thanks for all your support!


Fabrizio

On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Fabrizio Furnari <fab.furnari@email.it>wrote:

> Hi Ricardo, thanks for this email (and for the solutions) and sorry for my
> late answer.
> The choice to install Debian in text-mode only is provided by
> debian-installer, which calls tasksel (only in "Expert mode") and let you
> select the tasks to install.
> Sincerely I didn't try to install ArcheOS without the "Graphical
> Environment" task, also because most of the applications in ArcheOS uses
> extensively gnome or another desktop environment.
> We're trying to make ArcheOS most standard and wider as possible, so at
> the moment we didn't plan to release a "text only" distribution.
> An alternative for these kind of issues could be install the drivers
> during the installation (always in "Expert Mode") or deselect the
> "Graphical Environment" task to install it later using tasksel.
> Didn't know if works...
> BTW, which package did you install to provide such graphic drivers?
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Ricardo Gaidão <caioviator@yahoo.com.br>wrote:
>
>> Just sharing my recent experience:
>>
>> Currently I'm trying to install ArcheOS Theodoric in a old laptop. Just
>> want do discover if ArcheOS is a good choice for old machines and if those
>> can still be used in practical archaeological projects. In theory they
>> should, specially if you aren't planing using the machine to handle complex
>> 3D model calculation.
>>
>> Unfortunately I faced a problem. The computer graphic card (ATI Radeon
>> Mobility 9700) is not compatible with Debian last versions (ergo not
>> compatible with OS like Ubuntu or ArcheOS - yes I tried).
>>
>> When I run ArcheOS live dvd the system loads correctly but don't
>> recognize the graphic card and the screen turn all white. When I install
>> the system using graphic or text installers dvd options the same problem
>> occurs, because ArcheOS installs GNOME graphic interface by default.
>>
>> The problem is that GNOME can only work correctly after you install the
>> necessary hardware drivers, but at the same time don't let you do this,
>> because prevents the access to screen display providing only a blank screen
>> (ALT+CTRL+F1 also don't work).
>>
>> I only figure three options to solve this:
>>
>> OPTION 1) The simple option. To edit GRUB command line during system
>> booting to don't run a graphic interface. After the system boot in text
>> mode you can install all the necessary hardware drivers.
>>
>> I read sources saying that this can be done adding info to GRUB forcing
>> the system to boot in runlevel=3. But I couldn't figure where and how to
>> add this option in ArcheOS grub.
>>
>>
>> http://www.brunolinux.com/05-Configuring_Your_System/Grub_boot_runlevel-3.html
>>
>> OPTION 2) The complex option. Install the system without X11 (no
>> graphics). After the system boot in text mode, you can install all the
>> necessary hardware drivers and GNOME from terminal.
>>
>> I tried this option but apparently ArcheOS installer don't provide, like
>> Debian installers,  the option to install the system without graphics (X11).
>>
>> OPTION 3) Another complex option. Install Debian OS without graphics
>> (X11). After the system boot for the first time install all the
>> necessary hardware drivers and GNOME from terminal. Boot the system already
>> in graphic mode and convert Debian to an ArcheOS system using the "
>> archeos-system” metapackage, created by Fabrizio Furnari.
>>
>> http://vai.uibk.ac.at/dadp/doku.php?id=archeos_v4convert_howto_en
>>
>> I tried this option and apparently it works. But converting Debian to
>> ArcheOS in this particular case is just like using a cannon to kill a fly.
>>
>> FINAL SUGGESTIONS:
>>
>> 1) Providing ArcheOS grub menu option (or instructions) to boot in text
>> mode. This can also be useful in other cases, like incorrect graphic
>> configuration (i.e. choosing incorrect screen resolution) or file
>> corruption that prevent the user to access correct screen display.
>>
>> 2) Adding an advanced option to ArcheOS installer (similar to Debian), to
>> install ArcheOS without graphics.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mailing list info: http://lists.linux.it/listinfo/archeos-dev
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> @P=split//,".URRUU\c8R";@d=split//,"\niranruF oizirbaF";sub p{
>
> @p{"r$p","u$p"}=(P,P);pipe"r$p","u$p";++$p;($q*=2)+=$f=!fork;map{$P=$P[$f^ord
> ($p{$_})&6];$p{$_}=/
> ^$P/ix?$P:close$_}keys%p}p;p;p;p;p;map{$p{$_}=~/^[P.]/&&
> close$_}%p;wait until$?;map{/^r/&&<$_>}%p;$_=$d[$q];sleep
> rand(2)if/\S/;print
>
>


-- 
@P=split//,".URRUU\c8R";@d=split//,"\niranruF oizirbaF";sub p{
@p{"r$p","u$p"}=(P,P);pipe"r$p","u$p";++$p;($q*=2)+=$f=!fork;map{$P=$P[$f^ord
($p{$_})&6];$p{$_}=/
^$P/ix?$P:close$_}keys%p}p;p;p;p;p;map{$p{$_}=~/^[P.]/&&
close$_}%p;wait until$?;map{/^r/&&<$_>}%p;$_=$d[$q];sleep
rand(2)if/\S/;print
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